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Mind of Its Own - 10/12/2004 22:35:50
Is there ANY way to keep FP from inserting height and width attributes on images automatically?
Because my site consists of tons of images all the exact same size, I wanted to control everything - height, width, border, margin - with an external style sheet. Smart, huh?
I painstakingly removed all height="300" width="192" attributes - 77 of them over 44 pages - and saved in HTML mode, have "Preserve Existing HTML" checked in Page options...only to have FP automatically reinsert them!!!
This is R##$$*IWE()$&#_&*)(&U#$)%&@#$)%U& me OFF.
Is there no way around this?
Considering that this is not even HALF of the images that will be on this site, I'm pretty peeved at all the extra code that will be in there with all those height/width attributes.
FURHTERMORE, I created a class for "thumb" sized images with it's own border, margin, attributes - and FP won't recognize the border. Just ignores it.
I'm really po-ed with FP right now.
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RE: Mind of Its Own - 10/12/2004 22:59:06
I think thats a part of FP, like it or lump it.....
There's always DW? or GL? Or First-Page?
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RE: Mind of Its Own - 10/12/2004 23:11:35
Switching editors is not an option at this point in time. This web must be finished this week.
I'm not going to try and master the learning curve of a new editor right now either. :/
I was hoping someone knew of a free or cheap plug in / add-in to correct this - like the one I have that prevents FP from inserting the "Generated by" meta tags in all documents.
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RE: Mind of Its Own - 10/12/2004 23:34:32
No idea if they have one, but try http://accessfp.net
See what they have to offer
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RE: Mind of Its Own - 10/13/2004 5:06:34
I have not had this problem, but then again I work in code view - I thought that you did too? Have you got Optimise HTML checked when publishing?, I understand that that can cause similar problems. Maybe it is something simple like refreshing after saving? I know that I often forget to do that.
Change the record Dan, all WYSIWYG editors have their own quirks.
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RE: Mind of Its Own - 10/13/2004 5:14:58
Karen doesn't have FP2003...or do you?
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RE: Mind of Its Own - 10/13/2004 9:48:20
i don't understand why you would want to do this in css - it's good coding practice to do it in html and the page will dispaly faster as it leaves the correct amount room for pictures till they load as soon as it hits the code rather than waiting till the stylesheet loads.
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RE: Mind of Its Own - 10/13/2004 12:46:24
I'll check that out, thanks Dan.
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RE: Mind of Its Own - 10/13/2004 13:01:42
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I have not had this problem, but then again I work in code view - I thought that you did too? Have you got Optimise HTML checked when publishing?
Yes, I work in code view 90% of the time. The error occurs after I save the document, then switch to preview mode. WHen I go back to code view to continue working, the attributes are back. I do have "preserve existing html" ticked. This "auto correction" bugs me...just like the quirk that was changing my one CGI link - changing a sequence of numbers and characters into something else - thus rendering the link dead. I have to edit that page now in NoteTab and upload it to the server to keep FP from getting its grubby paws on it and "fixing" it for me. 
No I do not have FP2003 though when I get my laptop (hopefully) I'll probably upgrade as I've already installed FP2002 on two machines.
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Thinking more about this, it's like a template is overiding Karen's changes. Were these pages originally constructed using a template?
No, it's a page I created myself - no template except an "empty" page I use to copy paste new pages from. There are no inline styles, shared borders, etc. Just a link to a line style sheet which is what I want to control the images.
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i don't understand why you would want to do this in css - it's good coding practice to do it in html and the page will dispaly faster as it leaves the correct amount room for pictures till they load as soon as it hits the code rather than waiting till the stylesheet loads.
I thought I explained this in my first post; maybe I wasn't clear.
#1. My entire site is controlled by one lone style sheet - which is all text related - no divs or anything.
#2. These pictures are all exactly the same and will all be displayed in exactly the same way on every page they appear. There are only about fifty now but there will eventually be three times that many or more - possibly several hundred pictures. I'd rather have
<img class="listing" src="folder/name.jpg" alt="text text text"> repeated hundreds of times than this:
<img style="border: 1px solid black; float: left; margin: 3px;" src="folder/name.jpg" height="300" width="192" alt="text text text">
When you multiply that over hundreds of times, the code begins to add up, especially since the alt text can be quite long-winded for some pictures.
I want to do this for 3 reasons - number one, it's easier for me to type the code for the styled images, and number two, the style sheet will already be loaded and the browser can read the page faster with less code, and number three - it will help keep the file size down. On an image intensive site, this is important.
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RE: Mind of Its Own - 10/14/2004 9:02:42
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The error occurs after I save the document, then switch to preview mode
Is that FP Preview, or preview in browser? If it's FP preview, maybe that is causing the problem. What happens if you just do one, publish to the server without previewing; what is it like on the server?
How does FP use it's cache locally?
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RE: Mind of Its Own - 10/14/2004 9:05:51
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How does FP use it's cache locally?
FP Preview "simulates" IE...so it'll work on the same basis...only using local files rather than remote.
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RE: Mind of Its Own - 10/14/2004 10:17:23
yes, but which local files? Is there a problem with the fp temp files?
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RE: Mind of Its Own - 10/14/2004 12:22:28
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Is that FP Preview, or preview in browser? If it's FP preview, maybe that is causing the problem. What happens if you just do one, publish to the server without previewing; what is it like on the server?
It still ads the attributes online. It doesn't show in my local copy though until I close it and re-open it again.
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RE: Mind of Its Own - 10/14/2004 12:50:02
I think that we are trying to do the impossible with 02
Why you can't do this
Re FP temp cache: See here
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