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Edge
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Using WMA Sound Files for Background Sound - 10/18/2004 17:30:45
I wanted to insert a background sound file into my personal website home page, but I soon discovered that FP 2003 does not support WMA files. I found this site http://www.fluffbucket.com/html/sound.htm
and copied this HTML code into the end of my page:
</body>
<embed src="sound.wma" autostart="true"
width="75" height="25" loop="true">
</embed>
</html>
Setting the width and height to "0" hides the little control bar. If you set it to width="75" height="25", a little control bar will appear at the bottom giving the user start-stop control.
Check it out at www.edgesz28.com Can you guess where this tune came from?
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dpf
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RE: Using WMA Sound Files for Background Sound - 10/19/2004 14:03:23
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Legally: A website is considered "public" and you bought the CD for private use only.
just to play devil's advocate - suppose I owned a tavern and played my cd's on the house sound system. is that "public"? is that legal? do radio stations owe a royalty every thime they play a recordd/cd? just curious
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reric
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RE: Using WMA Sound Files for Background Sound - 10/19/2004 14:25:25
yes the radio stations do owe a fee everytime they play a certain song. I am not sure on the "tavern" part though. The tavern would, however, need to pay a fee if they use a certain song on a commercial to promote the business.
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RE: Using WMA Sound Files for Background Sound - 10/19/2004 15:01:27
local radio stations get rounfd this in one of a couple of ways:
1) buy 10-20 disks of cheap music from the one-hit-wonders bin in woolworths
2) buy the not quite so recent top 40 singles on sale from the local record shop
they then play the same f************* records over and over again particulalry that maya-hee maya-hoo thing (Rumanian disco thing?!) until you end up taking in your own cds to work and playing those just so the music isn't some kind of mental torture (well depending on you rmusical taste...)
incidentally shops/businesses with customers in a shop in finland that play the radio have to pay for the 'privilege'
WMA files may not be th best choice anyway as they aren't compressed (are they??) at least not as much as mp3 or similar. also background music can be very annoying particularly for those on dialup (large unecessary download) or for those already listening to music while they surf (via computer or stereo) or just for those who've left their speakers turned up and get a sudden blare of music late at night :)
still i assume you know whether bg music is a good idea for your intended audience
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RE: Using WMA Sound Files for Background Sound - 10/19/2004 15:55:08
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WMA files may not be th best choice anyway as they aren't compressed (are they??) at least not as much as mp3 or similar.
Ummm...Dave...hatre to be the smart ass here but:-
WMA is M$'s version of the MP3, it uses different codecs, but it works on the same compression/decompression algoryhtms as MP3s. the only audio format that isn't compressed is WAV.. Codec is short for Compression/Decompression.
BTW - the above error is being give duie to the fact that the file was copied from a copyright protected CD using Windows Media Player...
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Edge
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RE: Using WMA Sound Files for Background Sound - 10/19/2004 16:09:38
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ORIGINAL: reric
Legally: A website is considered "public" and you bought the CD for private use only. it is in the legal crap on the cd. basically you are using the music to enhance your site and by law the creator of the music should be compensated for that.
Well, I never intended to raise a controversy. But now that I have looked into it a little more, I feel that reric is probably correct in the quoted statement above.
When researching this matter, I notice that terms such as “selling”, “distributing”, and "trading” are used quite frequently. I can safely say that I did not do any of the above. However, although my website is "personal”, it is also “public”.
Here is what I learned:
U.S. copyright law gives owners of copyrighted materials the following exclusive rights:
1. To reproduce the copyrighted work
2. To prepare derivative works from the copyrighted work
3. To distribute copies
4. To perform the work publicly
5. To display the work publicly
Title 17, Chapter 1, Sec 101 of the U.S. Code includes the following definitions concerning copyrighted materials.
“Publication” is the distribution of copies or phonorecords of a work to the public by sale or other transfer of ownership, or by rental, lease, or lending. The offering to distribute copies or phonorecords to a group of persons for purposes of further distribution, public performance, or public display, constitutes publication. A public performance or display of a work does not of itself constitute publication.
To perform or display a work “publicly” means—
(1) to perform or display it at a place open to the public or at any place where a substantial number of persons outside of a normal circle of a family and its social acquaintances is gathered; or
(2) to transmit or otherwise communicate a performance or display of the work to a place specified by clause (1) or to the public, by means of any device or process, whether the members of the public capable of receiving the performance or display receive it in the same place or in separate places and at the same time or at different times.
Schools have special exemptions, but still must be careful when using copyrighted materials. Here are three excellent sources I came across:
Copyright and the Internet
Internet Licensing: Getting Music Copyright Laws Right
The Engine of Free Expression: Copyright on the Internet
I hope including the above links is not against the rules.  That's right, I read even including a link without the owner's permission could be a problem. This is especially true with E-mail.
When using Google, I even found this hit from Outfront.
To play it safe and be an honest person, I think what I did was wrong and I am removing the background sound. Now, if you want a background sound, you can buy or lease the right to use the music. And, there are “Royalty Free” sounds, images, etc. that you can get. Ed.
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