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Slide Show Not Working - 10/21/2004 18:00:22
Another question.
Using FP Picture>New Photo Galery, I an unable to get the SLIDE SHOW web page to display and run proplerly on my web site.
I'm also having restrictions on how I can save this Photo Gallery, Slide Show, Web Page to my hard drive. Seems like it can only go to one place and all some specific directorys need to be in place.
I can get it working in the Preview mode in FP, but when I transfer the files to my web host, the format of the page is ok, the thumbnails do not show up and one of the photos from the slide show are in place.
Hope you can help again, Jon
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RE: Slide Show Not Working - 10/21/2004 18:41:55
Any chance you can provide a URL for us to look at? It sounds like you may have the image links pointing to the files on your hard drive.
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RE: Slide Show Not Working - 10/21/2004 21:26:36
Good suggestion. I checked that out and the page points to the correct directory and the files are in that directory.
http://users.rcn.com/zjon/slideshow
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RE: Slide Show Not Working - 10/21/2004 23:47:38
I had the exact same problem, so I understand your frustration.
FP saves the slideshow files (small jpg/gif, real.htm, real_p.htm, real_x, etc.) in a new subfolder it automatically creates under the default photogallery folder. FP will not give you the option to direct/browse to a specified location when saving these files. My problem, same as yours (probably), is that the default photogallery folder on my hard drive is at the same "level" as my home page folder.
So it worked on my computer, but not on my host account because the path was not the same in both places. And, I could not get my host path to match my computer without creating a new domain for "photogallery" at the same level as my main host account folder. If I had (add $15), I suppose I could have matched the directory/folder layout on my hard drive.
But instead, here is what I did:
I let FP save the slideshow files, creating a subfolder automatically under the default photogallery folder. Then I went into Windows Explorer and created a "photogallery" subfolder with the same path that I could setup on my host account without additional cost. After I created this subfolder, I went to the newly created subfolder in the default photogallery and copied the entire subfolder. Then I pasted it in the photogallery folder I created in a path that can easily be set up on my host account. It was then saved in two locations on my hard drive.
Then I went to the FP file with the slideshow and clicked on split view. When looking at the code, you can see how it is directing the path to the default location on your hard drive. Change it here in the code section to match your newly created photogallery folder and subfolder that is also on your host account.
I am sure I have only confused you more, but I promise that if you work on the path, it will eventually work. I had the exact same problem. It took me a while to figure out the path was wrong and that I had to manipulate my host account (folders and subfolders) to match the path on the hard drive as well. Also, make sure the original picture files are on your host account in the proper folder.
Trying to explain this, I feel like a dog chasing its tail! Somebody else please help me (another "Newbie") explain this better. Good luck, Ed.
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RE: Slide Show Not Working - 10/22/2004 11:51:23
Thank you for helping so much. I know this is way too much information, but, as you expected, I’m a bit lost.
FP saves the SLIDESHOW to My Documents>>My Webs>>myweb.
There are four other folders inside the main MY Webs folder that are titled myweb 2,3,4 and 5 and these other myweb folders have a blue dot on the folder.
During my tryouts, the mywebs, (SLIDESHOW) folder sometimes had the blue dot on the folder, but not this time.
The list of files and folders inside the myweb, (SLIDESHOW) folder are:
_private
_vti_cnf
_vti_pvt
images
photogallery
list of Jpg’s. large size, main viewing
index.html
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The full breakdown of the files and folders listed above:
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INDEX FILE, (slide show web page)
List of Jpg’s, (large size main viewing photos)
FOLDERS>>>>>>
_private>>>>>>>
EMPY FOLDER
_vti_cnf >>>>>>>>>>
SMALL JPG (1kb) AND ONE INDEX FILE that reads.
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vti_encoding:SR|utf8-nl vti_author:SR|DELL\\j vti_modifiedby:SR|DELL\\j vti_timelastmodified:TR|22 Oct 2004 14:36:22 -0000 vti_timecreated:TR|22 Oct 2004 14:36:22 -0000 vti_cacheddtm:TX|22 Oct 2004 14:36:22 -0000 vti_filesize:IR|5809 vti_cachedtitle:SR|New Page 1 vti_cachedbodystyle:SR| vti_cachedlinkinfo:VX|-H|photogallery/photo21935/real_p.htm -H|photogallery/photo21935/real_x.htm -S|photogallery/photo21935/sldshow.js -S|photogallery/photo21935/prevdis.gif -S|photogallery/photo21935/prev.gif -H|Javascript:fp_ShowImg(document['fpphoto_3240'],'400','300','6226',0); -S|photogallery/photo21935/004IM001993.JPG -S|004IM001993.JPG -H|Javascript:fp_ShowImg(document['fpphoto_2656'],'400','300','6226',1); -S|photogallery/photo21935/005IM001994.JPG -S|005IM001994.JPG -H|Javascript:fp_ShowImg(document['fpphoto_2050'],'400','300','6226',2); -S|photogallery/photo21935/006IM001995.JPG -S|006IM001995.JPG -H|Javascript:fp_ShowImg(document['fpphoto_823'],'400','300','6226',3); -S|photogallery/photo21935/007IM001996.JPG -S|007IM001996.JPG -H|Javascript:fp_ShowImg(document['fpphoto_7292'],'400','300','6226',4); -S|photogallery/photo21935/008IM001997.JPG -S|008IM001997.JPG -H|Javascript:fp_ShowImg(document['fpphoto_8268'],'400','300','6226',5); -S|photogallery/photo21935/009IM001998.JPG -S|009IM001998.JPG -H|Javascript:fp_ShowImg(document['fpphoto_1544'],'400','300','6226',6); -S|photogallery/photo21935/010IM001999.JPG -S|010IM001999.JPG -H|Javascript:fp_ShowImg(document['fpphoto_478'],'400','300','6226',7); -S|photogallery/photo21935/011IM002000.JPG -S|011IM002000.JPG -H|Javascript:fp_ShowImg(document['fpphoto_8211'],'400','300','6226',8); -S|photogallery/photo21935/012IM002001.JPG -S|012IM002001.JPG -H|Javascript:fp_ShowImg(document['fpphoto_4818'],'400','533','6226',9); -S|photogallery/photo21935/013IM002002.JPG -S|013IM002002.JPG -S|photogallery/photo21935/next.gif -S|photogallery/photo21935/nextdis.gif -S|004IM001993.JPG I|photogallery/photo21935/real.htm vti_cachedsvcrellinks:VX|FIUS|photogallery/photo21935/real.htm vti_cachedneedsrewrite:BR|true vti_cachedhasbots:BR|true vti_cachedhastheme:BR|false vti_cachedhasborder:BR|false vti_botgalleryfolder:VX|photogallery/photo21935/real.htm vti_metatags:VR|GENERATOR Microsoft\\ FrontPage\\ 5.0 ProgId FrontPage.Editor.Document HTTP-EQUIV=Content-Type text/html;\\ charset=windows-1252 vti_charset:SR|windows-1252 vti_progid:SR|FrontPage.Editor.Document vti_generator:SR|Microsoft FrontPage 5.0 vti_title:SR|New Page 1 vti_extenderversion:SR|5.0.2.2623 vti_lineageid:SR|{B315DC97-A1C7-489B-A9B2-10E084505F60} vti_backlinkinfo:VX|
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_vti_pvt >>>>>>>>>>
botinfs.cnf
bots.cnf
deptodoc.btr
doctodep.btr
fpdbw.ico
linkinfo.btr
service.cnf
service.lck
services.cnf
structure.cnf
writeto.cnf
images>>>>>>>>>
EMPTY FOLDER
Photogallery>>>>>>>>>>
photo21935>>>>>>
_vti_cnf>
list of .jpg (small 4kb)
next.gif
nextdis.gif
prev.gif
prevdis.gif
real.htm
real_p.htm
real_x.htm
sldshow.js
THAT READS
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vti_encoding:SR|utf8-nl
vti_author:SR|DELL\\j
vti_modifiedby:SR|DELL\\j
vti_timelastmodified:TR|22 Oct 2004 14:36:22 -0000
vti_timecreated:TR|22 Oct 2004 14:36:22 -0000
vti_lineageid:SR|{D2D6D3A2-EA79-450F-A3DC-1416F96561A8}
vti_cacheddtm:TX|22 Oct 2004 14:36:22 -0000
vti_filesize:IR|4362
vti_extenderversion:SR|5.0.2.2623
vti_backlinkinfo:VX|photogallery/photo21935/real.htm
When I look at the slideshow page I created in FP using the HTML view, this is displayed:
<html>
<head>
<meta name="GENERATOR" content="Microsoft FrontPage 5.0">
<meta name="ProgId" content="FrontPage.Editor.Document">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">
<title>New Page 1</title>
</head>
<body>
<!--webbot bot="PhotoAlbum" U-Include="photogallery/photo21935/real.htm" clientside TAG="BODY" --></body></html>
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Is the “photogallery/photo21935/real.thm” the string you are saying should be changed?
Sorry, but after searching the help files, I still don’t know anything about opening a file in split view, the only split view I can see is on the FRAMS menu.
I think I understand what you are saying about my web host. At the hosting site, these folders:
_vti_cnf,
_vti_pvt.
images,
photogallery>photo21935
do not appear as folders. I’ve tried creating folders with these names and putting the files inside, the same what they appear on my HD, but that did not work either.
I’ve read what you wrote many times, and still, these parts are hard for me to understand.
You wrote...
.... Then I went into Windows Explorer and created a "photogallery" subfolder with the same path that I could setup on my host account...
...... I created in a path that can easily be set up on my host account....
.......... Then I went to the FP file with the slideshow and clicked on split view.
When looking at the code, you can see how it is directing the path to the default location on your hard drive. Change it here in the code section to match your newly created photogallery folder and subfolder that is also on your host account
Can you or anyone try again? If so, that would be great. This should be easy, right?
Jon
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RE: Slide Show Not Working - 10/22/2004 11:54:00
the link to the slideshow page
http://users.rcn.com/zjon/
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RE: Slide Show Not Working - 10/22/2004 13:17:17
I noticed I have moved up from a "Newbie" to a "Beginner" with two stars. Maybe now I can better explain this (lol).
In your host account, the main folder where your index.htm file is located is zjon, right? (http://users.rcn.com/zjon/index.htm)
So when you created the photogallery/photo21935 folder on your host site and uploaded all the files inside photo21935, how did it look? Is it 'http://users.rcn.com/photogallery/photo21935; or http://users.rcn.com/zjon/photogallery/photo21935? Hopefully it is the second one listed.
Windows Explorer is the same as "My Documents". This is found on the Start Menu of Windows. It gives you a view of the folders and directory paths on your hard drive.
If you look at the folders (using "My Documents") on your hard drive and it reads /.../My Documents/My Web Sites/zjon/photogallery/photo21935; that might be the problem.
While in My Documents, I renamed "My Web Sites" to "edgesz28", in your case "zjon". That way it will be /.../My Documents/zjon/photogallery/photo21935 on your hard drive; the same as it should be on your host site.
Because I see one big photo, that tells me you have the original picture files located properly on your host account. But the FP file can't find the slideshow files (real_, small jpgs, etc.) inside the photo21935 folder.
My first explaination was a litte more complicated because I have three domains under one host account. I do not think all the copy and pasting and added photogallery folders is necessary for you.
You asked "Is the “photogallery/photo21935/real.thm” the string you are saying should be changed? Yes, this is the what I was talking about. But it appears to be fine.
If you can harmonize /zjon/photogallery/photo21935 on both your hard drive and the host site, your problem should be solved.
I know how frustrating this is to you. I probably spent the better part of two evenings (10 hours total) trying to figure this out. Keep working on harmonizing the paths in both locations, and you will eventually get it. My first attempts at uploading a FP file with a slideshow looked just like yours, a bunch of blank thumbnails with one photo. Good luck, Ed.
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RE: Slide Show Not Working - 10/22/2004 13:44:24
Harmonizing is the perfect word, I’ve sort of been trying to do that all along.
What confuses me the most, is when using the browser and right clicking on the thumbnails at the top, then checking out properties, the string fits exactly what’s on the host HD.
http://users.rcn.com/zjon/photogallery/photo21935/004IM001993.JPG
So, is that not as harmonized at you can get? Yeah, I know I’m missing something, but in the past, if that link fit, everything showed up ok.
I’ll continue to work on it for the rest of the day. Ouch!
Thanks for taking the time, it’s odd that the windows clearly explains how to create this slideshow page, but stops short of helping get it to work.
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RE: Slide Show Not Working - 10/22/2004 13:52:27
Edge,
I got it working by again creating the Photogallery>Photo21935 folders and fillig em up.
Question.
The thumbnail bar runs all the way across the page, is there a way to only display a few thumbnails photos on the bar at one time?
Thanks for your help, Jon
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RE: Slide Show Not Working - 10/22/2004 14:13:45
Good Deal!
Persistence pays off once again. I looked at your site and only see three or four thumbnails. The arrows turn gray when there are more pictures to either side.
Just remember, if you ever add another domain to your original host account, FP will continue to automatically create new sub-folders in the same photogallery folder. To move it down to the new domain folder, you will need to do the copy and paste deal I explained originally.
Best of luck, Ed.
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RE: Slide Show Not Working - 7/14/2007 21:57:05
I think I'm experiencing the same problem, but I'm having a hard time following along with the suggested fix.
The site I'm working on is www.ToriPrince.com, and the page with the photo gallery is http://www.toriprince.com/CanyonDrive.htm ... I need to get this figured out soon because there will be probably 20 different pages similar to Canyon Drive, and the client would like this site up and running within the next few days.
I don't understand why FP is showing the path as: "photogallery/photo5607/real.htm" in the source code. I have not created a directory/folder called photo5607 and do not have a file called real.htm. This is the path to the first image in the photo gallery: http://toriprince.com/images/gallery/canyondrive/canyondrive1.gif
I used FP to publish this site, as I was told that i HAD to in order to have the webbots work correctly. Sigh.
Thanks!!!
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RE: Slide Show Not Working - 7/14/2007 22:11:04
OMIGOSH!!! I think I made it work!!!
And all I did was to drag the PhotoGallery directory from the left/local side of the Publish window to the right/server side. VOILA!
http://www.toriprince.com/CanyonDrive.htm
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RE: Slide Show Not Working - 7/15/2007 2:10:59
baygrrl - why are all your photos gifs? they should be jpegs ;)
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RE: Slide Show Not Working - 7/15/2007 8:15:05
They're gifs because that's what my client provided. Can you explain why it matters?
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RE: Slide Show Not Working - 7/15/2007 9:18:12
gifs can only contain a maximum of 256 colours work best for images with solid colour areas and not many gradients like logos (think Nike for example) text and diagrams whereas photos are composed of millions of colours and compress a lot better using the jpg format (think JPEG: Joint Photograpic Experts Group) .
i'm surprised the images even look that good as gif ;) though you will spot some 'speckling' and if you could compare them to the originals then you would notice even more difference. also saving as jpeg even at a reasonably high quality would more than half those filesizes.
it's kind of weird how they supplied them as gifs and not as jpegs!
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RE: Slide Show Not Working - 7/15/2007 10:32:37
Thanks for the explanation! I've heard of JPGs and that's what I usually see. I just saved one of the GIFs as a JPG and it did make the file MUCH smaller (about 2/3 smaller!). I'll pass this info on to my client; maybe she will use JPG format for her future images.
I've got another 20 or so gallery pages (like Canyon Drive) to do; just needed to get the kinks worked out about why slideshow thingy wasn't working first.
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RE: Slide Show Not Working - 7/15/2007 20:14:07
The canyondrive page breaks in Netscape. Haven't checked Firefox.
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RE: Slide Show Not Working - 7/15/2007 21:03:15
Hmmmm ... it works in both IE and FF for me. I don't have Netscape ... or access to a Mac. I thought FF was basically the same as Netscape?
Any idea why it might work for me and not for you? Could that be a cache thing?
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RE: Slide Show Not Working - 7/15/2007 21:28:54
It's not a cache thing it's basically because FP is built to work in IE and the code it produces is not standards compliant which means that the pages won't display the same as IE in other browsers. Those pages are broken in FF as well as in Opera - when you click on the far right thumbnails in Opera you only get a proportion of the large image displayed. In FF it is the same unless you keep going back and forth with the horizontal scroll bar tab and you don't want users to have to do that.
Most people here don't bother with the FP gallery because it is such a mess, they find other apps to do the job which are much better. I have used the Web Album Generator which is standards compliant and very easy to incorporate into your site with FP. Best of all it is free.
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RE: Slide Show Not Working - 7/15/2007 22:45:18
I know FP code sucks. :-) But my client specifically requested that I use FP because she has this program and is somewhat familiar with it; also, she wants to be able to maintain her own site once I get the basic stuff done.
Thanks for the suggestion of Web Album Generator. I've downloaded it and played with it just a bit ... it will be tomorrow before I have a chance to try it much more.
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you can produce valid, cross browser compliant work using code view to tame it. However if your client can't get to grips with Web Album Generator ( it would give her a more professional looking site ) then point her to Gail's excellent tutorial on using the FP gallery 