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slbergh -> Novell and Windows (11/22/2004 15:49:06)

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Our so-called local computer "experts" are still using Novell and Windows together, despite a long history of problems. Recently, (as in Friday) every single Access database and any SQL database with an Access front-end corrupted whenever they were opened. As of today, we STILL are having problems, only now, it's affecting Word documents as well.

Can anyone PLEASE point me to some reliable information showing that Novell and Windows do not play well together so that I can try to force some changes to be made?

(Ironically, in the past, any time I've had problems logging in through my Novell client, the "experts" have removed it from my machine and just had my use the Windows login to access my network resources. Gee whiz, I don't seem to have any problems then!"

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bobby -> RE: Novell and Windows (11/22/2004 16:20:25)

I'm afraid you'll need to be more specific... [&:]

I searched google for "novell windows problem" and there were things from login clients on Win 98 to Netware and XP...

Try Google, but be more specific about which Novell product you're having trouble with...

I've read that they are moving away from developing for Windows now that they have Linux on board in full force... but I doubt they'll stop supporting what's out there now...




slbergh -> RE: Novell and Windows (11/22/2004 16:52:46)

That's part of the problem...we don't know which part is causing the problem. The server is running Netserver and around here in the office, we have a mix of Win2k and WinXP machines running the Novell client.

It's a mess around here right now. I've been unable to do any work today, since I keep all my files on the server so they get backed up.



dpf -> RE: Novell and Windows (11/23/2004 10:20:57)

I worked in an office for 6 years with Novell Netware as the network os and windows os on the clients and we never had a conflict between them.



slbergh -> RE: Novell and Windows (11/23/2004 10:32:25)

We run into problems constantly. Sometimes we're completely unable to ever log into the network, effectively stopping any work that day. This time it's more serious than that though. We can log in, but it seems every network file we open corrupts. All of our Access databases are still toast (including the front ends of all of our SQL server databases). Yesterday, we started losing Word documents, too.

Here in a bit, the "experts" are coming over to upgrade all of our clients...even though I've been using the version they're upgrading to since June.



dpf -> RE: Novell and Windows (11/23/2004 10:39:21)

I have no doubt that you have serious (and frustratning problems) but how certain are you that they derive from some incompatability between novell and windows?



slbergh -> RE: Novell and Windows (11/23/2004 10:44:23)

I'm 97% positive. As soon as the "experts" started applying Novell patches, we lost our ability to use our files on the servers.



Reflect -> RE: Novell and Windows (11/23/2004 13:12:40)

Hi,

Sorry, it must be a desktop issue...[;)] (I couldn't resist).

We run a mixed version here. Netware is the primary NOS and Windows 2K server and Widnows 2003 server are our MS NOS.

I ahve not run into any issues that you speak of. I would look at the way the NOSs interact.

We are currentkly on NW 6.5 with teh current patches.

Client is 4.90.

The do co-exist.

Sounds like your experts are:

A) Inept

OR

B) Inherited existing issues from the design gurus.

I would think B but removing your Netware client and telling you to use MS client struck me as funny [8|].

Take care,

Brian




slbergh -> RE: Novell and Windows (11/23/2004 14:00:27)

And the answer is..... A!

I've known for a long time they were collectively only about half a step above scripted first level tech support. They have finally come to the conclusion that they have no idea at all what the problem could possibly be. They updated all of our clients and it didn't change a thing. I'm now half way through Day 2 of being unable to work at all.



Giomanach -> RE: Novell and Windows (11/24/2004 7:30:56)

How does redo the network sound?

I know we don't use Novell here, all is Windows Networking Components run....

Better Yet...Get Linux[:D]

Have you tried re-installing the client machine programs, if that fails, get the "experts" to reinstall the main programs on the servers.

Novell & Windoze do work in harmony.....they just need looking after properly....

Something somewhere is corrupt...



puskarp -> RE: Novell and Windows (1/14/2005 3:59:17)

Novell does not mix well with Win XP Home Edition nor Win XP Pro/Home with SP2.

Home Edition was not designed for networked environments, and I know the latter from first-hand experience.

Good luck



slbergh -> RE: Novell and Windows (1/14/2005 9:21:26)

Welcome to OutFront!

I've been saying for years that Novell and Windows are a bad combo, but does anyone ever listen to me? Of course not!

We finally found the issue. Seven routers all failed simultaneously and the Novell servers choked by corrupting every file we touched. The Windows servers on the other hand.....

Now that the issue has been resolved, I can go back to my normal rabble-rousing! [:D]



paulie -> RE: Novell and Windows (1/14/2005 13:22:58)

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Seven routers all failed simultaneously


Wow! What are the odds of that? And do you believe its true, or is that what the experts told you? One router might have failed and affected all the others, but that's apparently not what they said.

I would echo the comments of Brian (Reflect) and dpf above - I have worked in an environment where Netware and MS were both present, but it can be a difficult beast to tame unless your admins are top-notch.

In any event, I'm glad to hear it is resolved.



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