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rdspollin

 

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worth using noframes ? - 3/28/2001 20:23:00   
is it really worth using the <noframes> tag nowadays?

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RE: worth using noframes ? - 3/28/2001 20:40:00   
Only if you want those of us using Opera (with frames turned off), Lynx (on my sun box at work) or most of the search engine spiders to see any of your site...

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Goober

 

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RE: worth using noframes ? - 3/28/2001 20:38:00   
It only takes a few seconds to copy the body portion of the html from your content page and paste it into the frameset page. It's not that much trouble.

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rdspollin

 

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RE: worth using noframes ? - 3/28/2001 20:43:00   
so if i put a link in the noframes going to the frame-less version of the site all i would have to do is design a new static navigation system for every frame-less site? is that right?

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RE: worth using noframes ? - 3/28/2001 20:26:00   
There are kind of two questions here -

1. Is it worth using noframes - answer: Yes
2. Is it worth using no frames - answer: Usually

The answer to the first question means you are essentially going to have two sites, both of which will have to be kept coordinated as updates and changes are made. That's extra work. And since you are going to have to come up with a navigation system for the no frames version anyway, it sort of begs the question of whether you need the framed version at all.

Perhaps you do, which is fine, but it is important to have thought through the implications - of which this is only one - beforehand.

Personally when a coice is offered between a framed and a no frames version of the same site, I invariably choose the no frames version and appreciate being offered the choice. So it is not just down to whether people can or cannot see frames. The reason for my choice is that it is so much easier and quicker to bookmark pages in no frames sites to return to later.

The most common reason for using frames is the large amount of information in a site and the need to have it all display with the navigation in place. In other words on the very sites where people are most likely to want to bookmark.

Just a few thoughts.


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RE: worth using noframes ? - 3/28/2001 17:10:00   
You can avoid duplicating pages if you're careful and plan your navigation logically.

As a general rule, one should provide non-graphic links as well as graphical ones. If the graphical links are done in frames and the non-graphical ones are placed directly in the content pages, you can kill 2 birds with one stone. However, the navigation structure of the two will probably differ in a few places.


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