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bobby Posts: 11394 Joined: 8/15/1969 From: Seattle WA USA Status: offline	After years of patience... it is finally here - 1/18/2005 10:46:42 I finally got my new machine... P4 3.0 GHz (800 MHz FSB, 1 MB L2) Asus P4P800S-X mobo 1 GB PC3200 DDR RAM (2 x 512 MB) ATI Radeon 9600XT All-in-Wonder (w/ remote) 80 GB, 7200 rpm, 8MB HDD 120 GB, 7200 rpm, 8MB HDD 7-in-1 media reader 3.5" floppy Samsung DVD +/- RW Dual boot XP and Mepis Linux, of course... I have to say that I'm pretty sure this machine makes me more productive... faster boot times, runs everything faster than the old P-III But the fact that this one plays games and such tends to even it all out... _____________________________ If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of progress?


Taz Posts: 2858 Joined: 7/6/2004 From: U.K (Formerly outer space.) Status: offline	RE: After years of patience... it is finally here - 1/18/2005 11:22:23 Congrats on the new toy, errr I mean work machine. _____________________________ Smiley T-Shirts and other Geeky fun stuff, Smileys and phpbb Smiley paks. (in reply to bobby)


rdouglass Posts: 9265 From: Biddeford, ME USA Status: offline	RE: After years of patience... it is finally here - 1/18/2005 11:29:43 (I'm green!!!) _____________________________ Don't take you're eye off your final destination. ASP Checkbox Function Tutorial. (in reply to bobby)


Giomanach Posts: 6112 Joined: 11/19/2003 From: England Status: offline	RE: After years of patience... it is finally here - 1/18/2005 11:57:57 And here's me whos just upgraded MoBo & processor, b'coz my Socket 370 went up in smoke...lol P4 2.4 Ghz (automatically overclocking at 3.6Ghz - no intervention needed) 256MB RAM Asus Mobo, same model as Bobby ATI Radeon 7000 Ok, so I'm on a seriously tight budget.... _____________________________ (in reply to rdouglass)


Taz Posts: 2858 Joined: 7/6/2004 From: U.K (Formerly outer space.) Status: offline	RE: After years of patience... it is finally here - 1/18/2005 12:10:44 Sorry to drift ever so slightly away from the topic, but overclocking. Pros & cons of it? _____________________________ Smiley T-Shirts and other Geeky fun stuff, Smileys and phpbb Smiley paks. (in reply to Giomanach)


bobby Posts: 11394 Joined: 8/15/1969 From: Seattle WA USA Status: offline	RE: After years of patience... it is finally here - 1/18/2005 12:58:58 overclocking: Pro: speed, baby! Con: that blue smoke coming from your processor... Dan, that must be the "C" model 2.4 GHz processor from Intel... I've seen that sucker clocked to a bus speed of 1.2GHz I've been putting this off for at least two years... pretty much the same system I've wanted the whole time... just paid a little less than I would have two years ago, LOL I'm still reinstalling software... the MS File and Setting Transfer Wizard is a pathetic joke. Unfortunately UT2K4 is taking up more of my time these days... so it's taking me longer to get everything set up that I need to... 3DMark-03 gave me a 3874 score with no tweaks or anything... I'm hoping a few trips to blackviper.com will bump me over the 4K mark... It's a whole new world of geekdom for me... I now have a PC with > 1GHz processor and 3D acceleration!!!!!!! _____________________________ If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of progress? (in reply to Taz)


Giomanach Posts: 6112 Joined: 11/19/2003 From: England Status: offline	RE: After years of patience... it is finally here - 1/18/2005 13:38:28 I'm using the Prescott Model, 2.4 Ghz on the box @ 133Mhz...but it's a dual spead, you can have 133Mhz or 200Mhz The BIOS was automatically set to 3.6Ghz (200Mhz) So I'm not gonna argue! My RAMS running at a speed of 400Mhz... Even the OEM info can't make it's mind up...lol..it says both 2.4 and 3.6, but according to SiSoft, I'm running at 3.4Ghz....soo...you do the math I'm running XP Pro without any of my tweaks, or those from Mr BV yet...maha Oh yeah...the Radeon 7000 series, mah not be up to much in the reviews, but this one I've got plugged in here is superb, it's only a 32MB one,. but my lord...lol...NFSU2....I think i'm gonna play that some more.... This is a big jump for me too...coming from a 633Mhz....heh I have a 2Ghz Celeron machine sat next to me on the floor...that's for a friend though... _____________________________ (in reply to bobby)


d a v e Posts: 4136 Joined: 7/24/2002 From: England (but live in Finland now) Status: offline	RE: After years of patience... it is finally here - 1/18/2005 14:19:03 quote: I'm using the Prescott Model, named after me?? (David Prescott) ;) _____________________________ David Prescott Gekko web design (in reply to Giomanach)


bobby Posts: 11394 Joined: 8/15/1969 From: Seattle WA USA Status: offline	RE: After years of patience... it is finally here - 1/18/2005 18:03:17 This weekend I'm gonna try to install the UT2K4 demo under Linux and see how she does... _____________________________ If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of progress? (in reply to d a v e)


Kitka Posts: 2515 Joined: 1/31/2002 From: Australia Status: offline	RE: After years of patience... it is finally here - 1/18/2005 18:33:22 Sounds similar to me Bobby. I battled on with a 450mhz P3 till a couple of months ago when I built me a brand new box. I'm really pleased with it, it flies in comparison to my old clunker. Although it is noticeably louder, despite having bought a special "quiet" case - Antec Sonata. I think I am going to have to find a way of putting it under my desk rather than on, as it is now. P4E 3.0 GHz Prescott Asus P4P800-E Deluxe mobo 1 GB Kingston PC3200 (200mhz) DDR SDRAM (2 x 512 MB) Seagate 80 GB, 7200 rpm HDD Pioneer DVR-108 DVD +/- RW I'm not a game player, so was content to transfer over my old GeForce4 MX440 video card from the old computer to save a few pennies. _____________________________ Kitka It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. (in reply to bobby)


Taz Posts: 2858 Joined: 7/6/2004 From: U.K (Formerly outer space.) Status: offline	RE: After years of patience... it is finally here - 1/18/2005 19:34:23 Kitka, you can buy sound dampning kits if it is that loud. May be worth thinking about. _____________________________ Smiley T-Shirts and other Geeky fun stuff, Smileys and phpbb Smiley paks. (in reply to Kitka)


bobby Posts: 11394 Joined: 8/15/1969 From: Seattle WA USA Status: offline	RE: After years of patience... it is finally here - 1/18/2005 19:51:07 What kind of loud is it? Does it sound like the fan or hard drive? It could be that something isn't completely tight... loose screw on a fan housing could make a lot of racket... _____________________________ If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of progress? (in reply to Taz)


Kitka Posts: 2515 Joined: 1/31/2002 From: Australia Status: offline	RE: After years of patience... it is finally here - 1/18/2005 21:44:38 quote: Kitka, you can buy sound dampning kits if it is that loud. May be worth thinking about. Yes I know - like the AcoustiPack pre-cut especially for the Sonata - it is almost as expensive as the case (incl PSU) was: ~US$80 which is ~ AU$106. I've read some articles, and opinion is divided as to whether it is worth the trouble and expense. _____________________________ Kitka It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. (in reply to Taz)

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RE: After years of patience... it is finally here - 1/18/2005 22:02:15

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What kind of loud is it?

Just like loud fan noises, a bit louder than my old PC.

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Does it sound like the fan or hard drive?

Fans mainly - I can only hear the HDD if I put my ear really close. I've read other people complaining about the fan which comes with the Prescott cpu though. In fact, I looked for an after-market silent one, before I even started building the computer. But the mobo makes things difficult cos there is very little room around the cpu and most silent models, like Zalman, are far too big.

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It could be that something isn't completely tight... loose screw on a fan housing could make a lot of racket...

Highly unlikely. I think there are only 4 screws in the whole computer (besides the mobo ones, which are tight). The 4 are mounted in rubber grommets that hold the HDD to the removable tray. And the 120mm rear fan is held in place by silicon rubber isolation mounts.

Part of the problem I think is the ANTEC logo which is punched into both sides of the case as holes. So that allows the sound to escape, plus it provides an avenue for a lot of dust to get into the case which doesn't impress me. The washable filter in front keeps most dust out from the normal airflow, so it seems odd to have provided extra entry points. If acoustic insulation is added, that naturally covers those holes, so maybe it is a good idea. Although I have seen those holes referred to as extra ventilation and I wouldn't like to reduce that.

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Kitka
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Giomanach Posts: 6112 Joined: 11/19/2003 From: England Status: offline	RE: After years of patience... it is finally here - 1/19/2005 8:29:33 The Celeron 2Ghz I have sat next to me - when it's on, it's silent My P4 2.4/3.6Ghz - Can hear the fans, but that's only b'cos there's 7 in it The empty Mercedes Case sat on the other side of me is pretty damn quiet when it's up and running. Paid about �30 each for the above cases, so not expensive ones either, two of them are Gaming cases with neon lights, and the others a MIDI Case, designed to look somewhat like a BMW _____________________________ (in reply to Kitka)


bobby Posts: 11394 Joined: 8/15/1969 From: Seattle WA USA Status: offline	RE: After years of patience... it is finally here - 1/19/2005 11:14:41 quote: the fan which comes with the Prescott cpu though. That's probably the culprit.. if you're sure it's the processor fan and not the one on the power supply or one in the case... You should be able to replace it for under $30 with a quieter one... though size will be an issue. You might opt to put a quiet fan in the top of the case, blowing down across your processor, and replace the fan with a heat sink... though I'd speak with an expert before doing this, to make sure it will be enough... P4's run pretty hot... _____________________________ If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of progress? (in reply to Giomanach)


Giomanach Posts: 6112 Joined: 11/19/2003 From: England Status: offline	RE: After years of patience... it is finally here - 1/19/2005 11:53:12 Heatsink & 2 fans on CPU, 1 fan on the side (with red and orange neon LEDs in it), two at the back, 2 on the PSU, d'ya reckon thats enough? _____________________________ (in reply to bobby)


Taz Posts: 2858 Joined: 7/6/2004 From: U.K (Formerly outer space.) Status: offline	RE: After years of patience... it is finally here - 1/19/2005 12:39:22 /thinks for a sec double fan under slung on my 250GB HD 1 on side of case 2 at rear PSU one 1 for CPU Yup, should be. _____________________________ Smiley T-Shirts and other Geeky fun stuff, Smileys and phpbb Smiley paks. (in reply to Giomanach)