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BobbyDouglas -> Blog Spammers Take a hit! (1/19/2005 17:26:22)

Some people have had their blogs get spammed by advertisments. Well if you use rel="nofollow" google will NOT include that when determining the search results (or something along these lines).

More info about it here. [:D]



Reflect -> RE: Blog Spammers Take a hit! (1/20/2005 14:31:17)

Yeah, three major ones are going for that. However three do not make the basket of eggs so to speak.

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Q: Is this a blog-only change?
A: No. We think any piece of software that allows others to add links to an author's site (including guestbooks, visitor stats, or referrer lists) can use this attribute. We're working primarily with blog software makers for now because blogs are such a common target.


However I thought the place of SEs was to help promote natural results not artifical ones. This seems artifical to me. You are manipulating your/their SERPS based on a tag, IMHO. I think this will be used unethically. Want to hide all those affiliate links from the SE?

Now add a step to those link exchanges on what to check for [8|]. why bother if someone is gaming the system to swap links to them.

I will be interested to see if this hits main stream or filters out. Time will tell.

Take care,

Brian



Mojo -> RE: Blog Spammers Take a hit! (1/20/2005 15:45:27)

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IMHO. I think this will be used unethically.


While I don't think it is unethical, I certainly agree that it will be used in a manner that the search engines will not like.

I am also not so sure how much this will prevent blogs from being spammed. Just look at the superhuman effort to eliminate spam. I don't know about the rest of you, but I receive more spam today than I did a year ago.

Another thing to consider is that blog spam is not only about PR. Traffic [which is the end goal] is just as important - 10,000 blogs that are spammed can drive a lot of traffic.

Iif I owned a well indexed site I would add this tag to all outgoing links except those links/ads that I am paid to display. This would allow me to funnel PR to the few outgoing links that I have approved of and to also be able to charge more per link. You could always do this using robots.txt on a page by page basis, but now you can fine tune your linking campaign on a link by link basis.

I think I like this tag...



Reflect -> RE: Blog Spammers Take a hit! (1/20/2005 16:23:17)

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Iif I owned a well indexed site I would add this tag to all outgoing links except those links/ads that I am paid to display. This would allow me to funnel PR to the few outgoing links that I have approved of and to also be able to charge more per link. You could always do this using robots.txt on a page by page basis, but now you can fine tune your linking campaign on a link by link basis.


Which in turn is what I was trying to express. You just gamed the system for a monetary advantage. You blocked all the links that you wanted the PR factor not to count. This gives a link page with say fifty links excellent PR as the SE only calculates the links you have deemed to be seen.

Sorry if I am off base.

Take care,

Brian



Mojo -> RE: Blog Spammers Take a hit! (1/20/2005 16:30:34)

Nah, your not off base at all. [:)]

I was just expressing an idea that using the tag for personal benefit was not unethical.

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You just gamed the system for a monetary advantage


Bingo! I do it, you do it and anyone who has ever altered their site to increase their SERPs or traffic has done it.

Now, we can focus our link campaigns in a way that was very difficult, if not outright impossible before. Convert your unused PR4 and PR5 sites into PR sniper sites.



BobbyDouglas -> RE: Blog Spammers Take a hit! (1/20/2005 21:39:08)

Most people will be using it though to filter out non-related links. So even though people might not use it just for blog spammers, it will increase page value in SEs, and thus be better for us who are searching for the best content.

I won't use it, but I know plenty of people who will!!



Mojo -> RE: Blog Spammers Take a hit! (1/20/2005 22:10:30)

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and thus be better for us who are searching for the best content.


Or....

It will be that much easier for those who know how to manipulate the SEs...

Personally, I think this change will be looked back upon with regret by the SEs.



Mojo -> RE: Blog Spammers Take a hit! (1/20/2005 22:16:31)

It's already happening....

LOL!

http://www.linkcondom.com/

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* Hoard your PageRank
* Hide your outgoing links
* Screw your reciprocal link partners
* Add code bloat to your page
* Find out today if people are buying links for the right reasons
* Yet more to obsess about
* Freely link to bad neighbourhoods
* Far easier to use than JavaScript, perl, php, robots.txt etc



Mojo -> RE: Blog Spammers Take a hit! (1/21/2005 10:46:55)

Update:

The nofollow tag is beginning to change the shape of the web.

It looks like wikipedia has implemented it to all (or most all) of their outgoing links. Here is an authority site that does not want to pass on their links.




Reflect -> RE: Blog Spammers Take a hit! (1/24/2005 15:47:08)

That took a loong time in internet days [;)].

You are correct, I should have chosen my words better (or thoughts [8|]).

Exactly what I was thinking though. hoard and sell baby.

Take care,

Brian



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