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dsulvett Posts: 92 Joined: 7/8/2004 Status: offline	CSS help - 1/20/2005 15:32:36 While i am at ( i have some free time today as you can tell) CSS, is there any reason to buy a cheap software to help me do this? Isnt there a feature in FP2003 that will do this? Also, why cant i just copy a template and rename them, this way the fonts will be the same as the colors also,,, hmmmm there is so much to know....sorry


jaybee Posts: 14207 Joined: 10/7/2003 From: Berkshire, UK Status: offline	RE: CSS help - 1/20/2005 15:45:40 First thing I'm going to do is move this to the css forum. Second thing is to consider this one as there isn't a straightforward answer to that. I'll be back....... [edit] third thing is learn how to spell _____________________________ If it ain't broke..... fix it until it is. GAWDS Now where did I put that Doctype? (in reply to dsulvett)


dsulvett Posts: 92 Joined: 7/8/2004 Status: offline	RE: CSS help - 1/20/2005 15:47:59 ok...so can anyone help me? (in reply to jaybee)


jaybee Posts: 14207 Joined: 10/7/2003 From: Berkshire, UK Status: offline	RE: CSS help - 1/20/2005 15:57:09 You could buy cheap software or even grab a freebie but you need to understand the basics before they'll be any use to you. Frontpage will do css but it depends what you want the outcome to be. You will get styled code but you'll also get loads of other code in there which rather defeats the object of using css to make your pages smaller and accessible. Having clicked on FPs css button many moons ago to see what it did, I'm now spending vast amounts of time trying to clean the site up and sincerely wish I hadn't been so inquisitive. Copying templates. Well you could but it depends on the template. If the author has used external style sheets you'll need to grab those as well otherwise when you load the site you'll find there's no formatting in there at all. If you're serious about learning css, and if you're going to be doing business web sites, I strongly suggest you do learn it, then you need to understand HTML. This means staying away from FPs design tab and getting to grips with what you find in the code tab. When you have a reasonable grasp of HTML then look at moving on to css. There are various courses around on the web to help you. I suggest you start off by looking at the tutorials straight from the horse's mouth at www.w3schools.org _____________________________ If it ain't broke..... fix it until it is. GAWDS Now where did I put that Doctype? (in reply to jaybee)


bobby Posts: 11399 Joined: 8/15/1969 From: Seattle WA USA Status: offline	RE: CSS help - 1/20/2005 16:08:51 software might be helpful depending on what you're used to. Frontpage can do it, no problem. CSS is just like HTML in that it can be created in any text editor, you can do it in notepad if you want. So the editor is up to you. I tend to just use whatever editor I'm in already whether it's Frontpage, CoffeeCup, Quanta, etc. Some people prefer CSS specific editors that help to keep your structure and such in better shape. I tend to recycle .css files and just change bits here and there, so I don't find it helpful... I prefer a simple text editor for stylesheets. _____________________________ In order to remove a wall you must first remove the Windows® (in reply to jaybee)


Karl Posts: 172 From: Chucktown, SC Status: offline	RE: CSS help - 1/20/2005 16:32:04 dsulvett, The first thing you should do is spend some time in the W3School's CSS Tutorial. This will really help you get your feet wet. FrontPage is okay with style sheet handling, but you will find a product like TopStyle quite useful. Download TopStyle Lite (it is free) and after using it a few times, you will notice how helpful it is for editing style sheets. Note: you really do need to learn some CSS before you dive into using an editor. The editor is just a facilitator. HTH, Karl _____________________________ Create, validate, and communicate! Adonnis Networks (in reply to dsulvett)


Lazykatz Posts: 163 Joined: 1/12/2005 Status: offline	RE: CSS help - 1/20/2005 19:27:27 Hi dsulvett, Here is another good place to learn CSS, it is a start to finish tutorial including some advanced concepts. http://www.richinstyle.com/guides/introduction2.html Once you think you're ready for a little hands on, go to csscreator and there is an online CSS page style creator. http://csscreator.com/version2/pagelayout.php There forum is also a good place to join as well. http://csscreator.com/css-forum/index.php CSS can be used with FP with the patience of learning. Grizz _____________________________ http://lazykatz.com (in reply to Karl)


dsulvett Posts: 92 Joined: 7/8/2004 Status: offline	RE: CSS help - 1/21/2005 7:52:17 all you people are awesome...thanks (in reply to dsulvett)


c1sissy Posts: 5087 Joined: 7/20/2002 From: NJ Status: offline	RE: CSS help - 1/21/2005 9:18:38 Hi dsvulett, I would also suggest that you look in the links section here in the css forum. There are tons of informative sites in there that have tutorials etc.. One thing, search the box model, and learn it. This is the most important part of learning css. I can't stress it enough to learn this. Also make the validation service your friend. By validating your pages you learn. Validate your xhtml/html/ then validate your css. There is a homework thread in here somewhere that has code that you can use to play with. POSITIONISEVERTHING is an excellent site to visit to read about positioning. ALA (a list apart) is another excellent site to visit.BigJohn is terrific with his knowledge of css and an excellent person as well. WESTCIV is a good site, and they also have a bundled course that you can purchase that is self paced. They have a layout editor, as well as a css editor. Both are considered excellent. John is terrific with CSS, and a very nice person. Another site called thefixor has terrific links to css and other things. Also the cssvault is a good site to look through. I would suggest getting code from pages that are listed and play with it. But first, find links to the box model. You can start here, which is the best of all to start with. I print the pages and then read the information so that I have it by my side to underline etc.. http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/box.html Oh, lol, and of course, you can post all of your questions in here as you come across things that you don't understand. I'm a big believer in learning how to hand code if you are serious about learning web design. _____________________________ Deb-aka-c4Ksissy high panjandurum and alpha female of the silverback tribe As decreed by Jesper 5-24-2003. The only stupid question is... the one that is never asked!! http://directory.css-styling.com http://fmsforum.com http://positioniseverything.net/ http://www.tanfa.co.uk/ (in reply to dsulvett)