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Backing Up! - 1/25/2005 11:52:42   
The dreaded back up is something that we all have to do if we want to sleep well at night! I have been backing up to RW disks for some while but am now thinking about buying a plugin hard drive for the purpose. Can anyone recommend a good deal on USB ones? It doesn't need to be huge - 20Gb would be fine. Anyone got a great tip for quick and easy back ups? - hardware/software - I use a little freebie BU utility for catching all those odds and ends scatterd around my machine and just drag and drop my main files onto a CD here and there. Any pearls?
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RE: Backing Up! - 1/25/2005 12:51:55   
i recently bought a usb 80 gig external hard drive at comp usa..on sale for $79...... just bought norton ghost (which cost more than the drive) and havent fully evaulated/set it up.... but meanwhile, i back up important things easily with copy. sure cant beat the price and convenience. also, the external hard drive hooks up easily to my laptop

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RE: Backing Up! - 1/25/2005 13:10:10   
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but meanwhile, i back up important things easily with copy.


what's that?

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RE: Backing Up! - 1/25/2005 13:41:41   
lol..sorry - i mean i use windows explorer to copy from my docs to ext drive...hard way

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RE: Backing Up! - 1/25/2005 15:01:15   
I take Ghost images of the hard drive (which include the webs I want to backup) - they stay on a spare ata drive.
I personally prefer backing up to DVD for other files - normal drag and copy web backups to DVD

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RE: Backing Up! - 1/25/2005 21:35:49   
I use Windows XP Pro Backup. All files that I want backed up are in Folders under My Documents, including; all downloaded items, and files that I have created over the past 10 years, and recovered twice following hard drive failures. The backup data is on a second hard drive on a networked computer.

A Firewire (800 Mbps) connection, if your computer will support it, would ease the time situation.

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RE: Backing Up! - 1/26/2005 4:47:49   
i have my old 12 gig hard drive in my computer alongside (well underneath) my new drive and i just have a 'backup' shortcut that i drop stuff onto. i also occasionally use a couple of cd-rw's for smaller but important stuff

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RE: Backing Up! - 1/26/2005 5:04:32   
Ditto.

Two hard drives and a CD re-writer

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RE: Backing Up! - 1/26/2005 14:00:55   
Thanks All

I'll definitely buy a plugin h/d me thinks.

On this subject... RE WINDOWS ADDRESS BOOK... I 'copied' it and when I came to reload it all my addresses were gone! Should it have been done through 'export' or something instead?

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RE: Backing Up! - 1/26/2005 15:40:01   
You can get an ata 100-133 internal 300GB drive for about $190, and a 160-180GB for around $100.

I find the internal ones are a much better deal.

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RE: Backing Up! - 1/26/2005 16:04:45   
remember too that an external HDD is just a regular drive in an enclosure... you can buy the enclosures for $20 - $50

Just pop in a ATA drive and plug it in...

it's usually cheaper than buying an "external" HDD that's already put together, and you can use old drives that are just lying around if you want.


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RE: Backing Up! - 1/26/2005 18:51:15   
If you go to tigerdirect.com they have some great prices, and are pretty good to deal with.

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RE: Backing Up! - 1/27/2005 16:51:11   
Thanks All

But i've now just ordered one (external usb) from Amazon - 120Gb - 7,200speed - £75 inc postage - seemed the best deal I could find.

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RE: Backing Up! - 1/27/2005 19:10:53   
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I personally prefer backing up to DVD for other files - normal drag and copy web backups to DVD


How do you do this? I certainly understand how it works, as I've been copying info onto CD's for years and it's easy using Windows XP Explorer. But I just got a new computer with a CD/RW - DVD/RW drive. I can't add more info onto a DVD after the first burn, even though I have my software set to *not* finalize the disk. Heck, I want to be able to make full use of the 4.7 GB DVD.

Any suggestions would be appreciated. I'm using the basic software which came with the computer, "RecordNow." And, btw, I can't use Windows to burn to a DVD, only a CD disk.

Thanks in advance,
gail

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RE: Backing Up! - 1/27/2005 19:39:23   
Make sure you are using an RW disk? R's are single write so typically youll finalise the data before writing, whereas RW are multiwrite.
I use Nero and inCD which allows the disk to be used as a drag and drop file system (easily via Windows explorer)

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RE: Backing Up! - 1/27/2005 19:54:53   
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Make sure you are using an RW disk?


Duh, it's only a DVD-R.

So then I can not use it the same way as I use a CD-R (which allows me to make additional burns if I don't finalize the first)? If I want to make successive burns, I have to use RW?

While I'm at it, what are the differences between DVD- DVD+?

I'm going a bit batty with DVD+R, DVD+RW, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD-RAM. :)

Thanks Spooky.

gail


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RE: Backing Up! - 1/27/2005 20:13:15   
Just FYI:

CD-R - You can multisession on them, the file system allows for it
DVD-/+R - Can't multisession, files system doesn't allow for it.

And to answer you question:

Simple Answer:

The truth is that the two competing technologies use different formats. No single company owns DVD and both technologies have their champions.

DVD-R/RW was developed by Pioneer. Based on CD-RW technology. The DVD-R format has been standardized in ECMA-279, but this is a private standard, not an 'industry' ISO standard like the CD-R/RW Red Book or Orange Book standard.

DVD+R/RW is also based on CD-RW technology. DVD+R/RW is supported by Sony, Philips, HP, Dell, Ricoh, Yamaha, and others, and has recently been endorsed by Microsoft.

Technical Answer:

DVD+R is a DVD disc that allows multiple layers for one disc where as DVD-R only allows one layer. They will not compete to become the de Facto standard, because they are both here to stay. Multi layer DVD+R can allow extra capacity per disc than DVD-R hence the higher cost

Make any sense?

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RE: Backing Up! - 1/27/2005 20:29:41   
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Make any sense?


Kind of.

To keep it simple, do I understand this correctly?

I can multi-session on DVD+DW

I can not multi-session on DVD+R

If so, I need to buy some new DVD disks.

Thanks Dan,

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RE: Backing Up! - 1/27/2005 20:58:01   
Yes - get +RW disks
You can write files on them, come back in weeks and write more......
Like Dan says though - there are all sorts of standards and formats. RW's arent the cheapest, but I always prefer the ability to rewrite over a cheap disk that goes in the bin if I mess it up.

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RE: Backing Up! - 1/28/2005 7:45:03   
Actually, I found out I can make mutiple burns to a DVD+R disk. The burning software does not automatically recoginize a disk inserted in the CD/DVD drive until you click the "Load Disk" button (at least the first time, then the program remembers it). Once you do that, you can append (add) subsequent files to the DVD. You can not, of course, remove items from a DVD+R disk.

Thanks all for helping me walk through this! :)

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