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bobburk -> Transferring files between computers (1/25/2005 15:53:00)
Well, I got my daughter her new Dell (see discussion on previous post here from Jan 17th) and now the transferring of all her files and music starts. I bought a 256MB memory key, as a means of taking a bunch of files off the old and loading them on the new. Unfortunately the old computer is Win 98 and no drivers available (well there is one but it didn't work) to support the memory key. So now Im attempting to network her old computer to the new one to move the files. Anyone know of a good tutorial on how to set up "network neighborhood" on the old Win 98 so I can send the files over to the new computer? Bob B

ou812 -> RE: Transferring files between computers (1/25/2005 15:58:41)
I go to this place for tutorials or troubleshooting: http://www.helmig.com/ , and then specifically for Win98 they had a link to: http://www.windowsnetworking.com/j_helmig/win98.htm

bobby -> RE: Transferring files between computers (1/25/2005 17:07:53)
I'm still in the process of going through this with 2 XP machines. The File and Settings Transfer Wizard is a joke at best... and my machines can't access each other over my network no matter what I do. MS tech said I could reinstall XP on the old machine... he seemed stunned when asked him if he thought that might not defeat the purpose of networking to transfer the old files to my new machine... Needless to say I've been doing it on CD-RW bits at a time... I'm tempted to shell out the $50 for a commercial solution but haven't reached that level of frustration just yet... [8\|] I tell you though... I'm really tempted to buy an external drive and keep all of my files on it instead of one in my machine. It would sure be a lot easier to move them when I needed to...

Giomanach -> RE: Transferring files between computers (1/25/2005 17:13:17)
Whaddaya mean XP can't read XP? lol How are you connecting 'em? And are you using Patch or Crossover cable?

bobby -> RE: Transferring files between computers (1/25/2005 17:45:26)
tried both... also tried networking over my home network and with a serial cable (which Office Depot was kind enough to return for me when it didn't work so I didn't get stuck with an expensive cable that was no further use to me) I also tried saving the backup to a CD (my wifes files and settings were just over 550MB so it would fit) but that didn't work either. I expected some glitches... but I didn't expect it to be a complete blunder either... [8\|]

Giomanach -> RE: Transferring files between computers (1/25/2005 17:54:48)
OK, home networking basics: PC2PC connections - Crossover Cable only PC2HUB2PC - Patch Cable only Totally different types of cable. Don't hook them up to a hub and try, unless it's a file server hub. Don't use Serial/USB/Parallel to connect PCs, more hassle than it's worth. With XP, try to connect to a network manually rather than using the wizard, it some strange things... Hook the machines up, via Crossover Cable, direct link, and then manually, put them both on the same workgroup, call it what you will, but make sure the spellings are exactly the same, and do it manually. When done, ping each computer against each other. Make sure firewalls are disabled. It can be done my boy...it can be done... -or- Rip the HDD out and plonk it in new box? OK, It's official...my head hurts[:D]

Kitka -> RE: Transferring files between computers (1/25/2005 20:00:02)
quote: Rip the HDD out and plonk it in new box? Done that many times with clients computers. All my computers have Hard Disk Mobile Racks installed. So I can put any old HDD in it, copy the files to it that I need, then plug it into new computer. Also works well for backups, as it can be stored away from the computer, off-site if necessary. They only cost about $20 here, probably far less in USA. A prominent local identity, who runs his business from a home office, had his house burned down in the firestorm of 2003. He impressed me when he mentioned that although he lost almost everything, his business files were intact as they were backed-up off site. salutary lesson to all of us. Just 'cos you back up to another drive or CD, doesn't mean you are safe.

bobburk -> RE: Transferring files between computers (1/26/2005 7:05:10)
Although ripping the HD out of the old and putting it into the new sounds like a good solution, I'm not real comfortable doing the mechanics and the setup in the new computer. After I plug the HD into the new computer, what is involved with getting the new computer to recognize the foreign HD? Does it just plug into the ribbon cable that is going to the existing HD? Will the new computer automatically set it up? After I transfer all the files off of it, and remove it, will the new computer recognize that it is now gone or do I have to do something else? The new computer is a Dell Dimension desktop with Windows XP home edition. Bob B.

dpf -> RE: Transferring files between computers (1/26/2005 8:55:34)
quote: not real comfortable doing the mechanics and the setup in the new computer I'm with you bob - i envy those like kitka and Dan who have grown comfortable with it. ive been told repeatedly "its not hard" and im sure it isnt but if i ever take the plunge - it wouldnt be with a brand new one.

Giomanach -> RE: Transferring files between computers (1/26/2005 9:13:57)
<pats his puter> Home made babay,...home made </pats his puter> Dan, we are being serious when we say it's not at all hard, people are amazed at the speed I can install upgrades to thier PCs, all it is, is a screw and a few push in PCBs.... I'm in the process of transferring 5 info domains into my posession, one of which is pcsrus.info - I intend to turn it into a KB place for PC building, and possibly at a later date a place for selling custom buit barebones systems...

Spooky -> RE: Transferring files between computers (1/26/2005 13:58:46)
Pretty much plug it into the same IDE cable and turn it on. You ensure that the drive you are inserting has the jumper set to slave, but it will vary between setups. It may be best to have someone hold your hand the first time ;-) For speed, thats the way Id do it.

bobburk -> RE: Transferring files between computers (1/26/2005 14:05:42)
The computer is so old I probably can't find the manual to tell the jumper positions to make it the slave. Is there a way to tell by looking at it? Bob B.

dpf -> RE: Transferring files between computers (1/26/2005 14:25:03)
quote: It may be best to have someone hold your hand the first time ;-) For speed, thats the way Id do it. do you mean you can do it faster if someone holds your hand?

bobby -> RE: Transferring files between computers (1/26/2005 15:25:08)
quote: Rip the HDD out and plonk it in new box? I tried that too! For some reason the machine would not boot when the second drive was installed. It would hang at a grey screen and never move. I tried slave and a cable select setting, tried multiple spots on the IDE cable just for S&G and even tried several different power wires, in case that was the problem... I think part of the issue is that my old HDD is probably ready to tank again (this will be third drive in 4 years). Sectors go bad and they stop booting. At first I thought it was the drive, but after the second one did the same thing I figured it was probably a combination of the demon posessed HP hardware and my taped-together XP install. (I'm about as hard on my computers as I am my cars... I expect them to take quite a bit of abuse) [;)] My plan is to wipe the first partition off of the old drive and pop it in without Windows installed on it. The second partition is a 80GB FAT where I kept most of my files. Hopefully it won't cause any GSOB's (Grey Screen of Boredom?) after that.

Giomanach -> RE: Transferring files between computers (1/26/2005 16:07:28)
uhh...you're using FAT file systems with XP?

Kitka -> RE: Transferring files between computers (1/26/2005 18:18:29)
quote: Is there a way to tell by looking at it? Most hard drives have a little diagram on the top showing the jumper settings. But if yours doesn't, just experiment. If the computer won't boot you'll know you got it wrong. [;)] [:D] So then you try again with a different position. Actually, lots of HDD have the slave setting with no jumper at all. My Seagate is like that. So first I'd try removing it altogether (if you don't have the diagram), and see if that works.

bobburk -> RE: Transferring files between computers (1/27/2005 0:29:28)
Thanks all for the replies. Bob B.

bobby -> RE: Transferring files between computers (1/27/2005 10:57:27)
quote: uhh...you're using FAT file systems with XP? LOL Only on that partition... Linux and NTFS have only recently started playing well together. [;)]

Giomanach -> RE: Transferring files between computers (1/27/2005 11:00:49)
That's true I have never run XP on anything other than NTFS. It prolongs the HDD life a bit, allows big programs to laod faster, anf it can take more of a bashing that FAT ;) Your HDD might last longer if you use NTFS all round....

bobby -> RE: Transferring files between computers (1/27/2005 11:03:54)
I use NTFS on both partitions on the new machine. Primary partition (where Windows was installed) was NTFS on the old one too. I usually keep a FAT partition on a drive so I can share between my Linux and Windows machines. Just try getting Windows to read an ext3 partition...

_gail -> RE: Transferring files between computers (1/27/2005 19:23:16)
quote: So now Im attempting to network her old computer to the new one to move the files. Anyone know of a good tutorial on how to set up "network neighborhood" on the old Win 98 so I can send the files over to the new computer? This really has nothing to do with your networking question but, for what it's worth, I just transferred all my email, images, files, folders, settings, email and address book contacts, cookies, favorites, toolbars, etc. in less than 1/2 hour (usb2) using IntelliMover. I was amazed how well it works. You do have to install your programs first. My neighbor, who let me use it, said he paid about $30.00. http://www.detto.com/Intellimover/ gail

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