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HELP! - Crazy Table Issues Making Me Crazy!!!

 
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Matt

 

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From: Portland, Oregon, USA
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HELP! - Crazy Table Issues Making Me Crazy!!! - 4/8/2001 18:16:00   
I'm having an issue with my website for vacation accommodation seekers and renters/sellers:

http://128.121.113.94/index.htm

I've built the home page and I'm using that
as a "template" for the rest of the website:

TEMPLATE: http://128.121.113.94/index.htm

I'm working on the egional areas of my site
now (USA, france,carribean, etc.) To use
my template page to begin a new page I use
the following procedures:

1) Starting from my template I use "save as"
to start another page.

2) I add some custom HTML to add the CGI coding needed to display the database info
(Insert -> Advanced -> HTML)

This is working great... EXCEPT for a few
pages that are LOOKING AWEFUL due to the right navigation bar (yellow) being RANDOMLY
MOVED DOWN on the page making it look bad.

See for yourself:

Correct -> http://128.121.113.94/index.htm
Incorrect -> http://128.121.113.94/southern_usa_vacation_rentals.shtml

What the HECK is happening. I cannot... for the life of me figure this out.

Thanks,

Matt Hockin


abbeyvet

 

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RE: HELP! - Crazy Table Issues Making Me Crazy!!! - 4/9/2001 20:04:00   
I looked at the source of your page and found it very difficult to figure out your table structure. So I copyed into a page in FP and in HTML view stripped out everything except the table and cell tags. And I am afraid it is a bit of a mess. Several <td> tags have no closing </td>, there is a missing </table> tag somewhere and an out of place one elsewhere.

You have columns within a table set at 100% width where there are others at fixed width - this is impossible. There are heights set in some cells that are different to cells beside them - again impossible. In any case ot is best to avoid heights altogether.

There are loads of <div> tags scattered about doing nothing in particular.

I hadn't time to do all this with the correct page so I can't tell you if it is somehow different.

I have a feeling that you did a fair bit of fiddling to get your template right and that what has happened is that FP has left bits of code from things you deleted or changed hanging around.

I have always found that if I do a lot of fiddling to get a thing as I want it I either have to go into HTML view and remove all the extrneous stuff or (better but slower) remake the who;e thing once I have the structurte clear in my head.

Sorry that I have no quick fix. - perhaps someone with a clearer head than me will see a way of sorting it without having to remake your template.

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Katherine

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LinKKs - Kilkenny's Online Magazine


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Shirley

 

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RE: HELP! - Crazy Table Issues Making Me Crazy!!! - 4/9/2001 20:46:00   
Same here.. I started to look at your code last night but it was late and I was tired. You have tons of tables,cells and rows with height attributes that number one..shouldn't be there and number 2 don't match. I was looking at the template page. Clean up that code a bit before you try to save it as another page.


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Matt

 

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RE: HELP! - Crazy Table Issues Making Me Crazy!!! - 4/9/2001 13:57:00   
Thank you very much for looking at my web pages and diagnosing the problems.

This isn't going to be fun.

I'm going to have to re-do EVERY page.

I love FrontPage!!!!

Matt


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Shirley

 

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RE: HELP! - Crazy Table Issues Making Me Crazy!!! - 4/9/2001 15:37:00   
Just don't do any dragging to get your cells the size you want them!!!!

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Matt

 

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RE: HELP! - Crazy Table Issues Making Me Crazy!!! - 4/9/2001 16:10:00   
Right!

Thomas Brunt told me that when we did a training session.

I did notice that I clicked on the cells and moved them (barely) by mistake. I would always click the back/undo button after that.

Do you think this may have been the problem?

Matt


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Thomas Brunt

 

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RE: HELP! - Crazy Table Issues Making Me Crazy!!! - 4/10/2001 20:15:00   
I don't think that would result in deleted </td> tags. Could be, but I haven't seen that. It usually creates math errors.

Loosing tags usually happens when copy/pasting code. It's pretty common for folks to copy almost all the code they need but to leave off a closing tag.


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Matt

 

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RE: HELP! - Crazy Table Issues Making Me Crazy!!! - 4/10/2001 14:04:00   
Hi Tom,

Thanks for the reply.

I think I need to re-do the template and start the whole website from stratch again.

Any tips on doing this in a way to not mess up my coding. I need "clean" coding from the start in a "template" page. I'll then use the template to start each new page by using "save as".

OR:

Maybe I should just clean up the coding on my index/template page and then use it as the template???

Thanks,

Matt Hockin


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puiwaihin

 

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RE: HELP! - Crazy Table Issues Making Me Crazy!!! - 4/12/2001 23:33:00   
What I would do is start by laying out a table that works and then copy and paste the items with a cell (not the whole cell itself) into the new table. Trying to fix a giant mess like that is more trouble than it's worth.

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Matt

 

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From: Portland, Oregon, USA
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RE: HELP! - Crazy Table Issues Making Me Crazy!!! - 4/12/2001 23:43:00   
Issue Resolved!

I hired Thomas Brunt to help consult me throught this mess. It turned out that
my programming wasn't the problem.

He found the issue in about 5 minutes. The CGI/Perl programming code needed a quick fix and now everything works perfectly.

Thanks Thomas!

Matt Hockin


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