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barnowl Posts: 4 Joined: 2/2/2005 Status: offline	CSS to clean up site? - 2/2/2005 17:49:39 Hi Everyone I have been "maintaining" a site, www.bchja.com, for a year - I started knowing nothing and am not too much further ahead now I use FP2002 on a server that does not have extensions. I did manage to change colour schemes, add the logo, and post the necessary news and results updates (mostly pdf links). I know that the coding is a mess, and I now know that I need to use CSS to streamline things and help make future changes easier. I don't know HTML and am attempting to work backwards using the homepage - this has been very frustrating because my results are wacky and I don't know if it my lack of knowledge of the coding or if it is a problem with FP and how it acts on a server without extensions. So, I guess the question is, what is the best way to build my style sheet based on the format I already have, without causing too much pain. My plan was to have all this done before the "busy" time came, but I'm too late now. It may just be another year of mickey-mousing. Thanks for any advice (except find another volunteer) Dawn


Lazykatz Posts: 159 Joined: 1/12/2005 Status: offline	RE: CSS to clean up site? - 2/2/2005 19:37:31 Hi barnowl, On the main page for the CSS forum, there is a couple (100) links for learning CSS. http://www.frontpagewebmaster.com/m-173804/tm.htm http://www.frontpagewebmaster.com/m-249332/tm.htm Start out simple, with like just the fonts, work you way up to the rest. I'm in the midst of learning CSS, here is my current non compatable browser site, http://lazykatz.com and here is what I've accomplished in 2 weeks of reading and trial and error http://fpwm.lazykatz.com/blue/new_page_3.htm I also have fp2002.. but use it to collect dust anymore or to just do a quick edit online. All it takes is a willingness to learn, and plenty of patiences.. lol Grizz _____________________________ http://lazykatz.com (in reply to barnowl)

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RE: CSS to clean up site? - 2/2/2005 20:14:41

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I now know that I need to use CSS to streamline things and help make future changes easier. I don't know HTML

CSS to streamline things..... well yes, to a point. Your site isnt that big. If it were fully CSS, you could easily change colors, fonts etc but in reading your post, it seems that you are very new ( and that isnt a bad thing) and still struggling with updating content etc. CSS wont make it easier to add a new newsletter. Dont get me wrong - CSS is vital but I dont think it is #1 for you at this moment.

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I know that the coding is a mess

Truth be told, your code isnt 1/10th as bad as a lot we see here.

I think the main thing I would say is this..... continue getting comfortable with your new found duties using FP as an aid and as far as extending your knowledge, I think you should focus on learning some html before CSS - knowing html will help you more in the shortrun and then incorporate css into it. Just my HO

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barnowl Posts: 4 Joined: 2/2/2005 Status: offline	RE: CSS to clean up site? - 2/2/2005 21:18:59 Hi Dan Your post made me feel much better about things - thanks. I know the site is small and quite simplistic, but there are new functions I will need to be adding. And yes, I guess I better learn some html basics, especially since my server doesn't have FP extensions. Hard to believe that in "the old days" I was a programmer/systems analyst. Now I feel like my grandparents did when we gave them a VCR! Thanks for the advice Dawn (in reply to dpf)


barnowl Posts: 4 Joined: 2/2/2005 Status: offline	RE: CSS to clean up site? - 2/2/2005 21:23:37 Hi Grizz I will take a look at some of those links. I have a willingness to learn but rarely get a chance to focus on the website (fighting kids for the computer, etc). It seems just when I'm having a "breakthrough", some other priority comes along and I don't get back to it for weeks. Then it is back to the beginning. Dawn ps your site looks much more complicated than mine - good luck! (in reply to Lazykatz)


d a v e Posts: 4177 Joined: 7/24/2002 From: England (but live in Finland now) Status: offline	RE: CSS to clean up site? - 2/3/2005 4:30:39 dawn just to add the grey background image would be smaller and clearer as a gif - go back to the original and save it again from there. :) _____________________________ David Prescott Gekko web design (in reply to barnowl)


jaybee Posts: 14191 Joined: 10/7/2003 From: Berkshire, UK Status: offline	RE: CSS to clean up site? - 2/3/2005 5:03:32 quote: I was a programmer/systems analyst. Then you're way ahead of a lot of people. Get to grips with HTML. If you're anything like me, you're so used to having to program every little detail that you get confused with things like FP that do a lot of it for you. You keep trying to over complicate stuff. In FP code mode, you can write web pages just like you did programs. _____________________________ If it ain't broke..... fix it until it is. GAWDS Now where did I put that Doctype? (in reply to d a v e)


dpf Posts: 7126 Joined: 11/12/2003 From: India-napolis Status: offline	RE: CSS to clean up site? - 2/3/2005 7:51:48 quote: Hard to believe that in "the old days" I was a programmer/systems analyst trust me on this - and jaybee will confirm it - html is child's play compared to whatever language you used in the "old days". it isnt even a programming language - it is simply markup - tags- to instruct the browser how to lay out your page - no conditionals, repitition structures, functions- none. _____________________________ Dan (in reply to barnowl)


barnowl Posts: 4 Joined: 2/2/2005 Status: offline	RE: CSS to clean up site? - 2/4/2005 23:21:16 Wo-hoo! I couldn't see the forest for the trees! Just spent the tiniest bit of time sorting through the html for my page and I think I'm getting it. Definitely sorted out the problem that has plagued me since last fall, and that was the way fonts displayed differently on different systems. I can do this (as long as I get uninterrupted time and can keep the kids off my computer ) Thank you for the positive comments. Dawn (in reply to jaybee)