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ewingr -> Failure of Form posting (2/14/2005 22:07:33)

I'm not sure if my problem is server based or programming based. I had posted this in Beginning Web Design, in another thread on the same topic. It seemed that they didn't appreciate my coming in on an existing thread, and I didn't get far. Trying here.

When I first wrote my guest form, it worked fine. One thing: I had created a directory below my web root titled Guests and kept my form data files there. It has stopped working, quite some time ago. Now trying to fix.

I do have extensions installed and just upgraded this week to 2002 extensions. I have also just succeeded in actually publishing with Front Page. An error I had made was copying the files over instead of publishing. So that is corrected.

When I select submit the form from the web site, it gives an error "Front Page Error, please report to sites Web Admin" and "Webmaster: see the servers application event log" . But nothing is in the event log.

I was thinking it had to do with some rights being turned off. I have tried setting rights to that directory, and nothing helped.

I have since pointed to a file in _private, and still am getting the error message listed above.

I have it sending to a HTM file, and a second CSV file.

Oh, I had been working in Frontpage 2000. I have now installed FP 2002, and that hasn't helped either

I am thinking it may be a security issue. but not sure.




Giomanach -> RE: Failure of Form posting (2/15/2005 7:57:42)

Roger

Can we see a URL, or the coding of the page?

Dan



ewingr -> RE: Failure of Form posting (2/15/2005 9:18:36)

Here is a link to the Guest Form: --> http://www.rogerewing.cjb.net/guests2.htm




Giomanach -> RE: Failure of Form posting (2/15/2005 9:53:50)

quote:

http://www.rogerewing.cjb.net/_vti_bin/shtml.dll/guests2.htm

Looks like either a corrupt installation or a permissions issue.

Through the IIS Sanp-in, have you got Script Source Access allowed?

Dan



ewingr -> RE: Failure of Form posting (2/17/2005 17:52:02)

Well, I didn't have. I just went in and enabled it. I didn't remember which published version I have (write to guests o _private), so I enabled it for guest. Still can't save. Went back and disabled, reenabled for _private. Didn't work.

Now, there are other directories there as well: _vt_bin, Printers, Scripts, _sharepoint. And, having tried it on guests and _private, they don't show up any more.

Do I need to apply that to any of the others? I'm afraid to try, given what I'm doing affects whether they show up in the list any more, without hearing more.

Thanks



Giomanach -> RE: Failure of Form posting (2/18/2005 3:59:15)

You will need to apply the change to all folders in the web.

What kind of access to the server does a standard web user have?

Dan



ewingr -> RE: Failure of Form posting (2/18/2005 8:58:49)

I'll apply it to all.

A standard user has default access. I have not messed with rights at all.

[EDIT]
Getting closer. I made those changes, now when I try to submit the form, it comes back with a page not found error. This is the linke it is trying to get to:

http://www.rogerewing.cjb.net/_vti_bin/shtml.dll/guests2.htm

guest2.htm is the form itself that I click the submit button on.



Giomanach -> RE: Failure of Form posting (2/19/2005 8:50:00)

quote:

WWW Site: www.rogerewing.cjb.net
Port: 80
Server Software: Microsoft-IIS/5.1
FrontPage Extensions: YES
Version: 5.0.2.2623

I'd tried restarting IIS, if that doesn't work, the server, and if that doesn't work, re-install the FPSE on the server



AMysticWeb -> RE: Failure of Form posting (2/19/2005 19:07:31)

Hi Roger,

Sorry for coming in so late here.

First off, the FP Guestbook usually defaults file results to the root web e.g. guestlog.htm By default, there is no confirmation page either.

I have heard of users having problems after 100 posts. Not sure why this is.

If I were to create a second Guestbook results page, I would name it guestlog2.htm (you may need to create this page, as FP has already created guestlog.htm as the primary destination) and then create a hyperlink there for guestlog.htm so they could view previous guest entries, if you wish.

If you direct to a page in the root web, then no permissions should be required.

Another thing is that the file results are set by default to HTML definition list. On your current page, you have Formatted text within HTML.

Honestly, I don't see the point of placing the results in a folder.

If you want a copy, I would create a corresponding file e.g. guestlog2.txt, placed in the _private folder to be used as the Optional second file and set this to Formatted text.



ewingr -> RE: Failure of Form posting (2/20/2005 14:54:36)

Well, here is where I'm at, and a little more information to provide:

First, I had already tried stopping and starting IE,so I ended up rebooting. Didn't help. So I reinstalled FPSE2 again. I ended up needing to reapply the permissions. And I have the same results.

One thingw that confuses me is that when I get the error: The page cannot be displayed because the page address is incorrect, the link that is in the address bar at this point is:

http://www.rogerewing.cjb.net/_vti_bin/shtml.dll/guests2.htm

Now, I'm not sure what that link is supposed to be, but here is a litttle information:


  • Guests2.htm is the form that is being filled out.
  • I am trying to write to a file in the guest directory, not guests2
  • The files I am trying to write to are form_results.htm (file format is formatted text in html), AND form_results.csv (file format text database using comma separator)
  • I am NOT useing Front Pages default guest forms. This is a completely custom form that I created


So, what confuses me is that the link says that the file guests2.htm cannot be found, yet that is the exact file I was in before front page pushed in that new address while trying to write the file. It would seem it should be looking for one of the files I was trying to write to.

With regard to why I'm keeping it in a sub folder, I don't guess it's necessary. I just did it out of a habit I have of trying to be organized, and that as I suspect I would be accessing these files separately occasionally, I thought it easier in a separate folder. I can move them out if that will help.

That being said, I'd swear I read that the default was for them to be kept in _private, and that nothing should be kept in root that is write capable. I had tried moving them to _private with no luck, but as I write this, I'm thinking the permissions had not been set.

As I thought about this, I decided to try a relative setting: that is save to ..\guests\form_results.htm. But when I put that in, Front Page converts it to say c:\data\guests\form_results.htm.

So, I guess I am forced to save it in a default directory (that I find interesting), and I guess I'll try the root next, as mentioned in the earlier post.

I'll post back

[EDIT]
UNCLE!

I put the files I want to post to into the root of teh web server. Still no good.

I then read docs and found the default is _private, and I even created a test form (didn't publish) just to read where it keeps files, and it is _private, with the name of formrslt. So I tried that. Still no good.

What shall I try now?


Thanks

P.S.: I was just thinking. I wonder if something could be screwed up with the anonyimous access account that IIS uses. It is IUSR_<computer name>. I'm not sure how to check if it is functional.



Giomanach -> RE: Failure of Form posting (2/22/2005 9:50:15)

quote:

P.S.: I was just thinking. I wonder if something could be screwed up with the anonyimous access account that IIS uses. It is IUSR_<computer name>. I'm not sure how to check if it is functional.

If the account is there, it's functional. The usual solution is to allow full access, but this is a full time web server, and is available to all, and doing so would open up a big security hole.

Have you tried altering the permissions for the account?



ewingr -> RE: Failure of Form posting (2/22/2005 11:14:22)

If by 'if the account is there' you mean I can go into the users administration via the control panel and see the account, that is not the case. That is why I am questioning this. Fact is I don't remember ever seeing it there. I'm not sure when that account gets created, but presumably I've been through that process and it should be created. (FYI...I hadn't mentioned it, but this weekend I even completely uninstalled IIS, reinstalled, and loaded the pages. I would think that would re-create teh default anonomyous account).

So, based on that, I haven't altered permissions for that account. Not sure how to do it.



ewingr -> RE: Failure of Form posting (2/24/2005 7:32:36)

Bumping...to see if there are any more thoughts...

Thanks!



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