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CelticDragon
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abbr V. acronym - 3/7/2005 12:47:58
Is there one which is better supported or do they both basically do the same thing? I'm doing a media production site for my sister and I was thinking about explaining a lot of technical stuff for users.... Any views on this? PS: will this also help seo or is this considered to be "cheating" for padding your text and I should be careful?
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RE: abbr V. acronym - 3/7/2005 12:58:46
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Is their one which is better supported or do they both basically do the same thing? Sorry, but what are you asking? what are "they"?
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RE: abbr V. acronym - 3/7/2005 13:35:04
both are similar, but abbr is used for abbreviations e.g. css (cascading stylesheets) and acronyms are things like WHO (world health organisation) i.e. a 'word' that is made up from the initials of the words contained in the phrase/name you can style them with css as well like here http://members.tiscali.fi/dave_pirjo/test-area/css_stuff/hifi/hifi.html (the B&W in the subtitle and the freq. in the specifications) though the abbr doesn't seem to work in IE, but then IE is sh*t.
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RE: abbr V. acronym - 3/7/2005 16:36:50
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sh*t. dave: is that an abbr. or acronym?
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RE: abbr V. acronym - 3/8/2005 0:18:45
well obviously it's "shot" or should be ;) jaybee i understand why you don't want to use abbr for IE but what about other users and users of screen readers? aren't they going to be mentally scarred or something if they encounter an 'acronym' when it's plainly an abbreviation? this is one of those really annoying <abbr title="incapable explorer">IE></abbr> things that (IE) users don't care about when you tell them what a 'shot' browser IE is :)
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RE: abbr V. acronym - 3/8/2005 4:36:18
<rude>sh*t</rude>
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RE: abbr V. acronym - 3/8/2005 8:39:09
"david sir" blimey is that me?! so you're putting me on a par with Bill Gates?! ah see what you mean i'd rather let IE users wonder what the heck an acronym means ;)
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RE: abbr V. acronym - 3/9/2005 3:00:48
I always thought the only difference between an abbreviation and an acronym is that in case of abbr you literally spell the letters, like in "W3C", "FBI", "SQL", "BBC", "EU". An acronym, on the other hand, is read and pronounced as if it was any text, like "NATO", "IANA", "GNU", "NASA", "CORBA". Like here:
abbr {speak:spell-out;}
acronym {speak:normal;}
But of course I may have been mistaken.
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CelticDragon
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RE: abbr V. acronym - 3/9/2005 4:39:40
An abbreviation is a shortening of another word, such as abbr. is an abbreviation of abbreviation (English language rule#145: never use a word to explain it's meaning - thrown out the window!). Steve is an abbreviation of Stephen. An acronym is a word made up of letters of other words to give a title. MsSql is an acronym of MicroSoft Simple(?) Query Language. My question was more from a usability point of view, there would be nothing stopping someone from having something like <abbr title="Here is a really keyword rich sentence loosely associated with the words in the header title">Keyword</abbr> But is this likely to get you slap on the wrist by the search engines - or should I be posing this in the SEO forum?
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