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airattack111

 

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  		Advise plz - 3/7/2005 21:47:26   
Im redesigning a cajun music site for someone,

Here is there current site "not done by me"

www.feufollet.net

And here is what I have so far "still waiting on lots of things"

http://www.kfx400hq.com/feu.html

I'm getting paid pretty well to do it so it has to be perfect.

I tried editing it in dreamweaver, but I dont like dealing with tables in that program, so I used frontpage.

Any advise?
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  		RE: Advise plz - 3/8/2005 5:20:55   
It just doesn't do anything for me I'm afraid. I find the text on that background really difficult to read and the photo of the 3 band members just doesn't gel with the rest of the design or photos.

You have a problem there anyway as they really don't look like a Cajun band so, I think you need to go radically different.

They are heavily into promoting Louisiana according to their notes. They are fluent in French and they are American. Try basing the colour scheme around the Louisiana flag (blue and white) and add some red (USA and France - red white & blue)

Those stage pictures also need to be a lot clearer and you shouldn't use the same pic twice on a page.

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  		RE: Advise plz - 3/8/2005 16:27:47   
Well, I understand you used a bit of irony when you said it has to be perfect. No website can never be perfect no matter how long you work on it. I'm saying this because - not wanting to sound rude - that website isn't nearly perfect.

One major flaw is the background color which doesn't give the text enough contrast. And look at the link down there: it really doesn't work. It's not only the color blind: those kind of colors can easily give migraine to one of my co-workers.

Not to mention the HTML code which is a nice blast from the past: good old relieable way of using tables and center tag.

Also the image filesizes on the website are simply huge. That'll take minutes to load on a slow connection.

The good thing is that you don't have to do much to make it a lot of better. :) Just give it a pastel (light) background and decrease the image sizes a lot. Otherwise it's just as good as any corporate website - from 1996.

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  		RE: Advise plz - 3/8/2005 17:19:28   
I had a lighter background, but they wanted it darker.:)

It's just practice the web links aren't supposed to work:)

Theres going to be tottaly different pictures coming soon, so those wont be on there.


"Not to mention the HTML code which is a nice blast from the past: good old relieable way of using tables and center tag."

Works doesnt it?

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  		RE: Advise plz - 3/8/2005 17:38:51   
If they want a darker background then I suggest you use light text, cream would be good - #ffffcc.

As it is now I was getting eyestrain reading it.


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  		RE: Advise plz - 3/8/2005 17:43:57   
agree about the background - agree too that cream would be best choice for text IF you stay with the current bgnd!

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anderskorte

 

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  		RE: Advise plz - 3/9/2005 2:22:47   
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ORIGINAL: airattack111

"Not to mention the HTML code which is a nice blast from the past: good old relieable way of using tables and center tag."

Works doesnt it?

Yes it does. Actually that way it'll work best across different visual browsers. :)

It's just the way modern hi-end websites are built today. Today we have CSS, presentation separated from structure, workarounds for viewers with disabilities, device independence, semantic coding, search engine friendliness, XHTML etc etc. Those are sometimes called "web standards" although they aren't actual standards.

But tables have been buried a long time ago. Of course that doesn't mean they're still not used.

At least for me the background gives headache. I can't read text easily, so I tend to do what most of the users do when they encounter difficulties with a website: they leave. They go and google something else.

EDIT: Just wanted to add that your website (counting out the bg) is a huge improvement over the original version.

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  		RE: Advise plz - 3/9/2005 5:29:32   
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But tables have been buried a long time ago


Hold it. The recommendations are that tables should not be used for layout. If however you have data to display then you absolutely should use tables. That's what they're meant for.

Telling people that tables are dead will give them one hell of a headache when they're trying to display data with css and divs.

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anderskorte

 

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  		RE: Advise plz - 3/9/2005 9:50:43   
quote:

ORIGINAL: jaybee

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But tables have been buried a long time ago


Hold it. The recommendations are that tables should not be used for layout. If however you have data to display then you absolutely should use tables. That's what they're meant for.

Telling people that tables are dead will give them one hell of a headache when they're trying to display data with css and divs.

Exactly as you said.

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dzirkelb1

 

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  		RE: Advise plz - 3/9/2005 17:32:59   
Or, you have some of us who only know how to display data in a table format and are just learning that you can make all the tables the same color withe one little script!! (css) wow!

Hehe, I really need to learn to design as the functionality of everything is all together now :)

As for this site. Cream color would work good I would think. I like the font on the nav bar...its pretty neat. also, I'd toss in some sort of effect on those links once you get the links up and going..make it sort of stick out a bit.

an idea...possibly put their picture somewhere on the site, but have a flash portion randomly display a picture through a loop somewhere? that way you get all the pictures, serves as something sort of cool, and doesn't clutter the site with pics all over the place? maybe...maybe not also :)

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airattack111

 

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  		RE: Advise plz - 3/9/2005 18:20:39   
Thanks for the advise, I'll take some advise and see what I can do.

Im not much of a coder, I barely know the basics.. haha

I just make the site in photoshop, slice it up, then text edit in FP.

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  		RE: Advise plz - 3/10/2005 10:35:43   
Ya, I need to learn how to do that...making tables work for the right width is just getting old placing 10000 spacer.gif files in there!

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airattack111

 

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  		RE: Advise plz - 3/11/2005 18:07:11   
This website helps alot.

http://www.techlayouts.com/tutorials/1/

It's a good tutrial for making templates in PS. I jsut make it, slice it up into 4-5 gif's, then add hotspots and text:)


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