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SSI - It's not me.....is it?

 
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abbeyvet

 

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SSI - It's not me.....is it? - 5/2/2001 13:42:00   
I am having horrible problems with some sever people getting SSI enabled. This is the site I posted about before - cannot change, it's a government agency owned server dee dah dee dah.

The url is www.eckilkenny.ie

In the root and in a folder called resouces I have a file called inc.txt and one called inc.html and in the root also one called enquiries.shtml

I have put the following into enquiries.shtml

<p><!--#include file="inc.txt"--></p>
<p><!--#include virtual="inc.txt"--></p>
<p><!--#include file="inc.html"--></p>
<p><!--#include virtual="inc.html"--></p>
<p><!--#include file="/inc.txt"--></p>
<p><!--#include virtual="/inc.txt"--></p>
<p><!--#include virtual="/inc.html"--></p>
<p><!--#include file="/inc.html"--></p>
<p><!--#include file="/resources/inc.txt"--></p>
<p><!--#include virtual="/resources/inc.txt"--></p>

Now I think that pretty much covers all bases but nothing works. They tell me the server is configured for SSI. Am I losing it? What should I tell them - given that "please take a hike" is not an option?

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dayglo

 

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RE: SSI - It's not me.....is it? - 5/2/2001 14:09:00   
Havent a clue what you are talking about!! but did come across this link, although describing a ssi menu, it may have relevant points for your problem.

http://www.gifart.com/dynamic.shtml


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abbeyvet

 

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RE: SSI - It's not me.....is it? - 5/2/2001 14:37:00   
That page - for which thank you - suggested trying

<!--#config timefmt="%A" --> <!--#echo var="DATE_LOCAL" -->

to see if the SSI function was working. I added it to the pot. Nothing. So it looks like it is not me, which is bad because if it was me at least I would have some control over the solution.

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Andy from Spain

 

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RE: SSI - It's not me.....is it? - 5/2/2001 14:45:00   
Hi Katherine,

I thought the right syntax would be

<!--#include VIRTUAL="/resources/inc.txt"-->
or
<!--#include file="/resources/inc.txt" -->

...so there doesn't seem to be a problem there

I assume you've saved the page as .shtml....
failing that I think they should take a hike.

Cheers
Andy

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abbeyvet

 

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RE: SSI - It's not me.....is it? - 5/2/2001 17:05:00   
I'd love to tell them take a hike but for one reason or another I cannot. I am stuck with them.

I can't get this to work I have to rethink the entire site as it is built around a script that needs SSI to function. I have been struggling with this for nearly a month now.

What I really need is someone who knows what they need to do to the server to enable SSI. If I can spell it out to them perhaps we will be getting somewhere.

Or perhaps not. Anyone have a quick precis of what I should say? Or a good link (Apache for Dummies?) to which I could refer them?

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Rian

 

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RE: SSI - It's not me.....is it? - 5/2/2001 17:26:00   
How about this?

http://httpd.apache.org/docs/howto/ssi.html.html


Good luck!

Rian

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abbeyvet

 

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RE: SSI - It's not me.....is it? - 5/2/2001 18:29:00   
Thanks Rian.

I have sent it to them but to tell you the truth I am not very hopeful. I have a nasty feeling they may not take well to me 'telling them their business' - though patently someone should. They may well tell me to take a hike.

And then I will really be depressed. Because I will still be stuck on the server. I am becoming sorry I ever took this job.

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Gil

 

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RE: SSI - It's not me.....is it? - 5/2/2001 20:43:00   
quote:
Originally posted by abbeyvet:
That page - for which thank you - suggested trying

<!--#config timefmt="%A" --> <!--#echo var="DATE_LOCAL" -->

to see if the SSI function was working. I added it to the pot. Nothing. So it looks like it is not me, which is bad because if it was me at least I would have some control over the solution.


Katherine - the <!--#echo var="DATE_LOCAL" --> is valid and should work if the server is configured correctly. I've never seen a SSI call in a set of <p></p> tags before - why is it that way?

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abbeyvet

 

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RE: SSI - It's not me.....is it? - 5/3/2001 20:11:00   
quote:
I've never seen a SSI call in a set of <p></p> tags before - why is it that way?

No reason in this case. I just wanted the lines seperated if they came in. I shouldn't think it would make any difference though and I have used in it orher situations where I have two consecutive SSI's from different text files. It also formats the .txt includes in compliance with a style sheet which has defined styles for the <p> tag.

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Katherine

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Gil

 

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RE: SSI - It's not me.....is it? - 5/3/2001 20:25:00   
quote:
Originally posted by abbeyvet:
No reason in this case. I just wanted the lines seperated if they came in. I shouldn't think it would make any difference though and I have used in it orher situations where I have two consecutive SSI's from different text files. It also formats the .txt includes in compliance with a style sheet which has defined styles for the <p> tag.



Kool - I hadn't thought about using the style sheets that way, I've always included them in the include file. We learn everyday, huh?

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abbeyvet

 

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RE: SSI - It's not me.....is it? - 5/3/2001 20:39:00   
quote:
We learn everyday, huh?

Well, all of us except the idiots running this server anyway.

I just got an email saying it is working. It isn't. Grrrrrrr

All they have to do is view the source of the page to see what is in it but no, that's too difficult. They just repeatedly ask me what syntax I am using and if I am sure it is correct. So I tell them, again. They then email me again to say it is working. It isn't. That pointless circle of mail has been repeated 4 or 5 times now. I am going insane.

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dayglo

 

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RE: SSI - It's not me.....is it? - 5/3/2001 13:19:00   
This maybe an absolutely stupid suggestion, but are there any free hosts that support SSI, if you uploaded to one of those, and it worked, you could always post url to your host with a few choice words, or have a friend whose on a site with SSI support that will put the page up for you?

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abbeyvet

 

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RE: SSI - It's not me.....is it? - 5/3/2001 15:00:00   
Thanks for the sugestion Dayglo - I already have several sites using SSI so I actually know that the fault lies with the idiot server administrators and not me. I am really just blowing off steam here.

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RE: SSI - It's not me.....is it? - 5/4/2001 20:03:00   
Is it possible to locate the webmaster for any other sites on that server using SSI, and ask them how they were successful?

Nancy

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abbeyvet

 

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RE: SSI - It's not me.....is it? - 5/4/2001 20:08:00   
I don't know of anyone else on the server using SSI. Actually I don't know anyone else using the server period.

In fact initially when I got the spec for this site the server details said that cgi scripts were not allowed. So naturally I decided to build the entire site around a cgi script requiring SSI

It took only a little persuasion to get them to give me a cgi bin and let me run scripts. However I think I see now why they were not allowing cgi in the first place.

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