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RickP Posts: 693 Joined: 11/13/2004 From: Kent, U.K. Status: offline	Photoshop compared to pse3 - 4/29/2005 8:04:54 For web design, is there much in the full photoshop version that is not in the latest 'elements' (3)? And... is it possible to download more 'shapes' and other extras for Elements? Thanks, Rick _____________________________ Regards, Rick On-The-Web-Now!


bobby Posts: 11399 Joined: 8/15/1969 From: Seattle WA USA Status: offline	RE: Photoshop compared to pse3 - 4/29/2005 13:09:01 There are a TON more features in full PS than in Elements... but for most web dev. projects elements will probably be sufficient. some things I wish it had that PS has are things like batch processing and such. 99% of what you need to do for the web you can get done in Elements. (note: I've spent a total of about 2 hours in Elements demo, compared to several years in PS from v5 to the CS trial version I'm playing with now) _____________________________ In order to remove a wall you must first remove the Windows® (in reply to RickP)


RickP Posts: 693 Joined: 11/13/2004 From: Kent, U.K. Status: offline	RE: Photoshop compared to pse3 - 4/29/2005 14:56:40 V. useful comments - thanks (might save me a lot of cash!) _____________________________ Regards, Rick On-The-Web-Now! (in reply to bobby)


Nigel Posts: 383 Joined: 7/24/2002 From: Wirral - UK Status: offline	RE: Photoshop compared to pse3 - 4/29/2005 16:30:07 If elements isn't enough go for paintshop pro - it does just about evrything the full version of ps does - including an excellent batch processor- for about the same price as elements. _____________________________ Innerview Web Design - Virtual Tours - 360 Panoramas - Shopping carts (in reply to RickP)


RickP Posts: 693 Joined: 11/13/2004 From: Kent, U.K. Status: offline	RE: Photoshop compared to pse3 - 4/29/2005 17:26:47 Thanks Nigel I'm trying out PSE2 & PSP7 together - I haven't the full measure of either yet and it's hard to choose between them so far. So, are you saying that overall PSP has more features useful to web design? _____________________________ Regards, Rick On-The-Web-Now! (in reply to Nigel)


bobby Posts: 11399 Joined: 8/15/1969 From: Seattle WA USA Status: offline	RE: Photoshop compared to pse3 - 4/29/2005 17:35:14 You might also check out PSE3... it's the new kid on the block... _____________________________ In order to remove a wall you must first remove the Windows® (in reply to RickP)


RickP Posts: 693 Joined: 11/13/2004 From: Kent, U.K. Status: offline	RE: Photoshop compared to pse3 - 4/29/2005 17:43:05 Rats! - Having started out thinking PSE was the way to go I have just swung to PSP tonight - and now you tell me that V3 of PSE may be the way... !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! _____________________________ Regards, Rick On-The-Web-Now! (in reply to bobby)


RickP Posts: 693 Joined: 11/13/2004 From: Kent, U.K. Status: offline	RE: Photoshop compared to pse3 - 4/29/2005 17:44:21 Does PSE 3 have a significant amount of extras over PSE 2? _____________________________ Regards, Rick On-The-Web-Now! (in reply to RickP)


bobby Posts: 11399 Joined: 8/15/1969 From: Seattle WA USA Status: offline	RE: Photoshop compared to pse3 - 4/30/2005 1:13:26 I've only used PSE3 demo, and only recently so I can't tell you for sure... _____________________________ In order to remove a wall you must first remove the Windows® (in reply to RickP)


RickP Posts: 693 Joined: 11/13/2004 From: Kent, U.K. Status: offline	RE: Photoshop compared to pse3 - 4/30/2005 7:21:10 Okay - thanks, It seems that one version back on PSP (v.8) can be picked up for a snip - �17.99 on Amazon resellers! For that price I think I can afford to get this anyway and check out PSE3 later _____________________________ Regards, Rick On-The-Web-Now! (in reply to bobby)


Nigel Posts: 383 Joined: 7/24/2002 From: Wirral - UK Status: offline	RE: Photoshop compared to pse3 - 4/30/2005 17:31:50 Hi Rick, Yes PSP does have more advanced features than PSE but thats is not meant to distract from PSE - I think the menus on PSE are simpler. PaintshopPro is closer to the full blown version of Photoshop in terms of functionality. I know people who use it who can't understand why anyone would pay for the full PS. I've used all of them - PSP, PS and PSE. Both PSP and PS are more advanced but having said that PSE does most of what a lot of folks need. It depends on what you use it for I guess. It's one of those ones where if you use it for a while you'll want more features. Nigel _____________________________ Innerview Web Design - Virtual Tours - 360 Panoramas - Shopping carts (in reply to RickP)


RickP Posts: 693 Joined: 11/13/2004 From: Kent, U.K. Status: offline	RE: Photoshop compared to pse3 - 5/1/2005 1:08:44 That's really useful Nigel - thanks Now, what about installing additional extras in PSP - are there places for downloads of extra features? _____________________________ Regards, Rick On-The-Web-Now! (in reply to Nigel)


Nigel Posts: 383 Joined: 7/24/2002 From: Wirral - UK Status: offline	RE: Photoshop compared to pse3 - 5/2/2005 12:25:08 Yes loads and psp also takes PS plugins and filters _____________________________ Innerview Web Design - Virtual Tours - 360 Panoramas - Shopping carts (in reply to RickP)


_gail Posts: 2876 From: So FL Status: offline	RE: Photoshop compared to pse3 - 5/3/2005 12:20:24 Here's my take on Photoshop vs. Others. There are many fine photo editing programs and a very popular, full-featured and excellent one is PaintShop Pro. I've tried it but have been using Photoshop for so long, I just can't seem to put in enough time to get the hang of it. Downloaded an earlier trial version of Elements, also. Don't have the time to get the hang of it either, though it would certainly be much easier for me than PSP because I'm a Photoshop user....and after using it all these years I have to say I've hardly scratched the surface of all it's features. Photoshop is the "gold standard" and most pros and photo enthusiasts prefer it for numerous reasons. But it is so expensive that it's outpriced itself for many. Adobe has improved PS Elements so much, and it has many of the features needed for image editing which are found in it's big brother. There is a book called The Hidden Power of Elements, which many rave about, and is said to reveal ways to access several of the most important Photoshop tools � that Elements was said not to have � hidden away in the interface. http://www.hiddenelements.com/ Which program to buy? Your decision; they are all excellent. The only reason to stick with Elements is that if you ever want to get Photoshop, you'll be familiar with the interface and get a bit of a discount for upgrading. < Message edited by _gail -- 5/3/2005 12:30:18 > _____________________________ Digicamhelp - Easiest place on the web to learn about Digit@l Cameras & Photography (in reply to RickP)


RickP Posts: 693 Joined: 11/13/2004 From: Kent, U.K. Status: offline	RE: Photoshop compared to pse3 - 5/3/2005 13:41:11 Thanks for this Gail - interesting input I am now settled though (for the present!) as mentioned earlier... Okay - thanks, It seems that one version back on PSP (v.8) can be picked up for a snip - �17.99 on Amazon resellers! For that price I think I can afford to get this anyway and check out PSE3 later _____________________________ Regards, Rick On-The-Web-Now! (in reply to _gail)


d a v e Posts: 4194 Joined: 7/24/2002 From: England (but live in Finland now) Status: offline	RE: Photoshop compared to pse3 - 5/3/2005 13:49:20 also for the web macromedia fireworks is excellent - arguably better than ps (for web work) as it is more vector based, however it is still quite expensive and its future is hazy with the forthcoming adobe takeover (or whatever it is). however thinking about your questions on printing i would recommend fireworks only for web work. Fireworks is not designed for print work - offering no cmyk mode, colour management or ability to deal with very large and high res images. _____________________________ David Prescott Gekko web design (in reply to _gail)


Donkey Posts: 3929 Joined: 11/13/2001 From: Blackfield United Kingdom Status: offline	RE: Photoshop compared to pse3 - 5/3/2005 13:55:14 Can I add a late reccomendation for Corel Photo Paint (just in case anybody else reads the thread). It's IMHO every bit as good as photoshop and if you buy an older version as cheap as PSP. I am amazed that nobody else on these forums seems to use it. quote: In my opinion, after using many different graphics software applications, including the so called 'leading' graphics applications from competitors, it is Corel's Photo-Paint that wins hands down every time, when one tallies up the 'bang for buck' comparisons. Corel Photo-Paint contains most, if not all of the features of its competitors, plus a great deal more. Moreover, almost every feature is substantially more flexible and powerful, especially when combined with an intuitive and powerful interface that includes Property Bars, Dockers and a completely customizable, exportable interface. You can even customize the workplace LIVE while you work, without the need to navigate complex menu structure. And you don't even need to restart - your customized changes are available immediately! Quote from Here _____________________________ I have a higher and grander standard of principle than George Washington. He could not lie; I can, but I won't. Samuel Clemens (in reply to RickP)


RickP Posts: 693 Joined: 11/13/2004 From: Kent, U.K. Status: offline	RE: Photoshop compared to pse3 - 5/3/2005 14:29:11 Thanks for these other recommendations - look forward to trying them out sometime. Thanks _____________________________ Regards, Rick On-The-Web-Now! (in reply to Donkey)


bobby Posts: 11399 Joined: 8/15/1969 From: Seattle WA USA Status: offline	RE: Photoshop compared to pse3 - 5/3/2005 15:29:58 If you can handle the odd interface... www.gimp.org The price is right It's all I use here at the office... _____________________________ In order to remove a wall you must first remove the Windows® (in reply to RickP)