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kt Posts: 195 Joined: 11/3/2004 Status: offline	Incoming link popularity from Google - 5/21/2005 7:49:07 Hi all I'm new to SEO so please bear with me... If I do a Google search for link:www.eslbase.com, Google tells me I have no links back to my site. I know for a fact that I have several (not many, but only just getting started...). Yahoo tells me I have some, as does MSN etc. All of the sites linking back to me have some kind of Google page rank. I've definitely been spidered by Google. Am I missing something? Why doesn't Google recognise the backlinks? Thanks in advance, kt


Tailslide Posts: 6364 Joined: 5/10/2005 From: Out here on the raggedy edge Status: offline	RE: Incoming link popularity from Google - 5/21/2005 8:20:01 Hi KT Anything to do with Google is always subject to conspiracy theories/lastest opinions/wild guesses and gossip so anything you see or hear about Google that hasn't come from their homepages should be viewed as opinions rather than facts. Anyway, that said - the latest "guesses" about Google's fiendish algorithms are that: a. It operates a "Sandbox" for new sites and for new links - this means it doesn't list the new sites immediately or list the new links immediately - it waits a while to see if they are still there or if they have disappeared. b. It likes incoming links alright, but only if they appear relevant - i.e. they come from a site that has a relevance for your site - not much good if you're a web designer! All of these ideas seem to stem from the view that Google is trying to do away with the advantage that having your site SEOd might give you - e.g. massive list of links from link farms etc. There seems to be a strong suspicion that if a site appears to have been SEO'd then Google will penalise it. Obviously this is a problem for those who optimise their own sites properly - but who knows what the truth is frankly. I'd say if the links are fairly new then wait a few weeks and see if they are recognised by Google. If not then maybe look at the text in the link from the other site - maybe the title tag in the link could help. It's all guess work I'm afraid. _____________________________ Little Blue Plane Web Design \| Land Rover project (in reply to kt)


Kitka Posts: 2520 Joined: 1/31/2002 From: Australia Status: offline	RE: Incoming link popularity from Google - 5/21/2005 8:33:59 quote: It's all guess work I'm afraid Oh wow - you are not wrong there! _____________________________ Kitka It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. (in reply to Tailslide)


Reflect Posts: 4769 From: USA Status: offline	RE: Incoming link popularity from Google - 5/21/2005 10:21:56 quote: It likes incoming links alright, but only if they appear relevant - i.e. they come from a site that has a relevance for your site - not much good if you're a web designer! For the sake of PR and nothing else (backlinks) Google does not care if this site is themed or the same genre. For the sake of ranking for an authoritative site yes genre specific links will help out. Also last I heard Google only displays backlins that are PR4 or higher when doing a link: query. Take care, Brian _____________________________ (in reply to Tailslide)


Kitka Posts: 2520 Joined: 1/31/2002 From: Australia Status: offline	RE: Incoming link popularity from Google - 5/21/2005 10:56:31 quote: Also last I heard Google only displays backlins that are PR4 or higher when doing a link: query. If that is true, it explains a lot that I have been puzzling over for a couple of years! _____________________________ Kitka It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. (in reply to Reflect)


Mojo Posts: 2443 From: Chicago Status: offline	RE: Incoming link popularity from Google - 5/21/2005 11:54:14 I'ts not all guesswork. Also, I am one of those that does not believe in the sandbox. I believe there are many filters in place and both SEO'd and non-SEO'd sites can trigger those filters and find themselves out of the SERPs. If you want to find your back links - use Yahoo -- linkdomain:yourdomain.com I show 111 results on Google using ::www.eslbase.com I show 44 results on Google using eslbase.com -site:www.eslbase.com IMO, Google has been using smoke and mirrors to trick/screw webmasters for quite some time. The toolbar PR is one of those tricks. _____________________________ Split Testing Order Fulfillment Emergency Kits (in reply to Kitka)


Tailslide Posts: 6364 Joined: 5/10/2005 From: Out here on the raggedy edge Status: offline	RE: Incoming link popularity from Google - 5/22/2005 16:45:31 quote: ORIGINAL: Mojo IMO, Google has been using smoke and mirrors to trick/screw webmasters for quite some time. The toolbar PR is one of those tricks. I agree - Google loves that people get themselves worked into a frenzy about the whole thing. They say things at various conferences that are deliberately ambiguous and then watch the panic ripple out. There's not much point in trying to pin down exactly what they're up to anyway 'cos they'll just change the algorithm and you're back to square one. All you can do is code as well as possible and have good content. Really what we need is competition for Google - reduce the monopoly. _____________________________ Little Blue Plane Web Design \| Land Rover project (in reply to Mojo)


Reflect Posts: 4769 From: USA Status: offline	RE: Incoming link popularity from Google - 5/23/2005 10:11:22 quote: If that is true, it explains a lot that I have been puzzling over for a couple of years! Yup, been this way for at least three years. Take care, Brian _____________________________ (in reply to Kitka)


kt Posts: 195 Joined: 11/3/2004 Status: offline	RE: Incoming link popularity from Google - 5/24/2005 10:17:23 Thanks everyone for all the input. I guess I'll keep on getting links and trying to optimise with good content. kt (in reply to Mojo)