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Taz Posts: 2827 Joined: 7/6/2004 From: U.K (Formerly outer space.) Status: offline	RE: Competitors using your name to advertise? - 7/20/2005 2:41:19 quote: ORIGINAL: Donkey quote: quote: ORIGINAL: BobbyDouglas Btw, welcome to the forum, I am sure the community will really enjoy your presense. Do we have to? I assumed Bobby was being sarcastic there? He was not alone then. He was being sarcastic, I was being diplomatic. _____________________________ Smiley T-Shirts and other Geeky fun stuff, Smileys and phpbb Smiley paks. (in reply to Donkey)


Tailslide Posts: 6036 Joined: 5/10/2005 From: Out here on the raggedy edge Status: online	RE: Competitors using your name to advertise? - 7/20/2005 7:09:24 quote: ORIGINAL: Puenil BobbyDouglas- One thing I see is that you promote fraud clicking at Google. Second, you have taken the world on your own shoulders and it is only "your perspective" on things. From others posts, they don't totally agree with you. I recall a commercial on ABC television last night where Pepsi referred to Coke in their ad. Another one was Ford, Dodge and Chevy ALL in the same television commercial (the one where the Country singer brings over the cutout of the frame while the men are in a local Cafe). Why haven't you aggressively gone after them? I suspect it's because you only know that you can't get sympathy from others around here or the other Internet BB's where you have posted this exact same message. I'm sure Ford, Chevy, Pepsi, Coke, etc would just hang up on you and not play your game. In fact, since you are so into trying to help the person being 'violated' (clicking Google ads via Proxy) why not go buy a Dodge each day? Just whoever has used the competitor in their ad? Buy 1000 cases of Coke per day to get back at Pepsi. Or wait, I guess that would cost YOU money to prove your point, wouldn't it? When you officially commit a crime, you are a crook, scum, sleaze... whatever.... And since you are a proven crook, scum, sleaze (by your own admittance) I have 0 respect for your comments. What the h* brought that on? Pardon me, but this seems rather an agressive first couple of posts especially when aimed at a long-standing (you can sit down now Bobby) member of this forum. _____________________________ "My strategy is so simple an idiot could have devised it" Little Blue Plane Web Design \| Blood, Sweat & Rust** - A Land Rover restoration project (in reply to Puenil)


Puenil Posts: 3 Joined: 7/18/2005 Status: offline	RE: Competitors using your name to advertise? - 7/20/2005 7:28:45 Long standing, short timer, 10000 posts or 2 posts; Google click fraud isn't anything to do. This is like the guy that steals from the local supermarket. Over time, the supermarket jacks their prices up in order to recover the theft. In the long run, EVERYONE pays for the one person's theft. Besides, why would a long standing member of ANY forum openly admit to illegal activity? http://mfile.akamai.com/11649/wmv/pepsicoinc.download.akamai.com//11649/mm/pepsiworld/ads_and_history/video/vendingmachine_hi.wmv Why is Pepsi showing a Coke machine in that commercial? Do you think that Coke's legal team is working on this? I don't. Simply because it happens all the time and it isn't illegal. I don't think Coke retaliates and I don't think BobbyDouglas goes out and buys 1000's of cases of Coke with a "proxy" (stolen / not his) credit card to get back at Pepsi. (in reply to Tailslide)


jaybee Posts: 14155 Joined: 10/7/2003 From: Berkshire, UK Status: offline	RE: Competitors using your name to advertise? - 7/20/2005 9:29:52 quote: which becomes a criminal matter.... Yes but we can't get her to press charges as she's too scared of him. _____________________________ If it ain't broke..... fix it until it is. GAWDS Now where did I put that Doctype? (in reply to dpf)


jaybee Posts: 14155 Joined: 10/7/2003 From: Berkshire, UK Status: offline	RE: Competitors using your name to advertise? - 7/20/2005 9:33:55 Puenil, I think you'll find that Tailslide's point is that it's possible to get your point across without calling people names. _____________________________ If it ain't broke..... fix it until it is. GAWDS Now where did I put that Doctype? (in reply to jaybee)


Donkey Posts: 3869 Joined: 11/13/2001 From: Blackfield United Kingdom Status: offline	RE: Competitors using your name to advertise? - 7/20/2005 9:58:00 There is a difference between comparitive advertising, which is legal but in my opinion inadvisable, and passing off. The point Bobby is trying to make is that by using your brand name or catch phrase your competitors are hoping for a free ride on your coat tails and are expecting to pick up business that would have otherwise gone to you by confusing the customer. This is called "Passing Off" and (is illegal at least in the UK) it is theft of your intellectual property right. Comparitive advertising such as the Pepsi taste test, and Tesco comparing their prices with those of Asda, Morrison and Sainsbury (UK supermarkets)is perfectly legal unless it is factually innacurate, in which case the offended party can sue for libel or slander (depending oin the medium used for the advertising). In my opinion comparitive advertising is inadvisable because you are publicising your competitor with your money, and it is negative. Advertising should always be positive. _____________________________ I have a higher and grander standard of principle than George Washington. He could not lie; I can, but I won't. Samuel Clemens (in reply to BobbyDouglas)


BobbyDouglas Posts: 5456 Joined: 5/15/2003 From: Arizona Status: offline	RE: Competitors using your name to advertise? - 7/20/2005 15:47:48 quote: Besides, why would a long standing member of ANY forum openly admit to illegal activity? - Until you answer my questions, don't expect me to waste more time responding to yours. I'm still wondering though.. what am I hotlinking? I'll be happy to remove any illegal hotlinks. Donkey, thanks for explaining it for everyone. Some people just don't have a clue. Btw Puenil... when you try to argue with someone, you need to first make your point, then have the person counter your point, and then you counter theirs and then you two repeat. You don't just repeat your first point after someone already responds, it makes you look stupid. _____________________________ Arizona Web Design - Mr Bobs Web Design in Arizona The Arizona Web Hosting Challenge (in reply to Donkey)