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gonewithwind

 

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advice on my site - 6/28/2005 6:12:02   
Any comments will be appciated.

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RE: advice on my site - 6/28/2005 6:30:34   
Hi there

As this is a web design information site you need to make sure you've got your own ship in order - so I'd get a DOCTYPE declaration and make sure the site validates (by putting in Alt tags amongst other things).

I find the ads in the middle of the page content a bit distracting - can you put them at the end of the content or maybe on the right-hand side.

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RE: advice on my site - 6/28/2005 10:41:40   
I have a question about the site. I like how you can pick what language you want, but how come the menu on the left doesn't change like the rest of the text?

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RE: advice on my site - 7/3/2005 3:58:05   
The ads don't bother me. Users have already used to ingoring certain sized images as banners.

You use a lot of tables, and in some places you even have tables inside other tables. That should be avoided. Also, you don't have to type      to get indenting. You can do the same much more effectively with CSS.

I also suggest adding the DOCTYPE. That way you can control rendering in different browsers more easily. Better to go with HTML 4.01 Transitional here.

And just one last thing: I have to praise your sitemap. That's exactly how site maps should be, not just a meaningless plain list of all the websites on the server. The website sections are clearly separated, which makes it easier for the user. That's a big plus.

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RE: advice on my site - 7/9/2005 4:13:28   
Dude why when I put these doctype things on my site it tottaly screws it up!:):):):)\

Airattack u need a doctype u need one, i put one, website blows up!:):)

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RE: advice on my site - 7/9/2005 4:33:32   
I understand it can sometimes be frustrating and yes there are loads of sites out there without DOCTYPES.

DOCTYPES basically let the browser know which flavour of HTML/XHTML you are using so that it can correctly interpret your code. Without a DOCTYPE it guesses at the lowest common denominator of code. This means it might get it right or it might get it wrong. You could well be lucky and have it show up correctly on all browsers - so why bother changing?

Because you may well not be lucky - your site might well look awful in some browsers. Also, you can't guarantee how newer more standard compliant browsers will react to it.

It's certainly easier to have the correct DOCTYPE in place before you start coding than adding it afterwards. If you decide that you can't sort your site out with a DOCTYPE in place and you understand why that might be a bad thing then you are making an informed decision not to use a DOCTYPE. The important things (IMO) is that you understand the issues involved and perhaps have a look at your code at some point in the future to figure out why it's going haywire.

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RE: advice on my site - 7/9/2005 5:27:54   
Hi Helena,

A lot of people also don't take out different kinds of insurances, be it business assets, warrantees and maintenance, or personal injury, income or home contents etc. They choose to take the risk rather than outlaying a sometimes reasonably large amount for something that may or may not occur.

If something does happen like a fire or flood or something and they lose their property and assets, or they suffer an illness or injury and lose their ability to earn an income, they soon wish they'd have forked out that small amount of money.

Likewise when their clients large website suddenly begins to break apart because a new browser version is released to which their site fails dismally, they lose that client and people who know about Doctypes and the like move in.

It's all about learning and investing for the future, and spending the time to add the new things you've learnt to old websites, free of charge, because it costs way less to keep an existing client than it does to gain a new one.

Nicole


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RE: advice on my site - 7/9/2005 7:23:21   
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Likewise when their clients large website suddenly begins to break apart because a new browser version is released to which their site fails dismally, they lose that client and people who know about Doctypes and the like move in.


Oh yeah - definitely! I'd say also Accessibility is really starting to be an issue for Clients. I'm no longer getting that blank stare and shrug from them (well, not often) when I start talking about the topic - they're starting to see the advantages (i.e. possibly avoiding legal action).
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It's all about learning and investing for the future, and spending the time to add the new things you've learnt to old websites, free of charge, because it costs way less to keep an existing client than it does to gain a new one.
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I agree again.

I think I started out here advising everyone to be 100% valid and use DOCTYPES, dump tables, go to CSS etc etc (I'd still rather that was the case!). But it became clear (from the responses I got) that some didn't have the time/energy/inclination to do that. For business sites and designers I'd still advise them to go that way but I think for personal sites as long as they have some sort of understanding of why they might run into problems then that's ok.

Maybe I've gone soft?!?

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RE: advice on my site - 7/20/2005 8:30:56   
Thanks.
I'll make some changes.

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RE: advice on my site - 7/20/2005 9:13:18   
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Maybe I've gone soft?!?
hardly...:)..but you have adapted nicely - you came here with a high level of knowledge and it takes awhile to realize how broad the range of skills and interests is here....

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RE: advice on my site - 7/20/2005 9:19:09   
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Maybe I've gone soft?!?
hardly...:)..but you have adapted nicely - you came here with a high level of knowledge and it takes awhile to realize how broad the range of skills and interests is here....


Yeah - you mean I've gone soft...:)



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RE: advice on my site - 7/20/2005 9:20:03   
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you mean I've gone soft...
not a bad quality....:)

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