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briesmith

 

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RE: CSS - 7/19/2005 12:21:46   
Well, how many wrong statements can you make in one answer. This says it all.

COBOL (Common Business Oriented Language) was one of the earliest high-level programming languages. It was developed in 1959 by a group of computer professionals called the Conference on Data Systems Languages (CODASYL). Since 1959 it has undergone several modifications and improvements. In an attempt to overcome the problem of incompatibility between different versions of COBOL, the American National Standards Institute (ANSI) developed a standard form of the language in 1968. This version was known as American National Standard (ANS) COBOL. In 1974, ANSI published a revised version of (ANS) COBOL, containing a number of features that were not in the 1968 version. In 1985, ANSI published still another revised version that had new features not in the 1974 standard. The language continues to evolve today. Object-oriented COBOL is a subset of COBOL 97, which is the fourth edition in the continuing evolution of ANSI/ISO standard COBOL. COBOL 97 includes conventional improvements as well as object-oriented features. Like the C++ programming language, object-oriented COBOL compilers are available even as the language moves toward standardization.

So 50s not 60s, can handle object oriented programming, has developed etc.

What is clear from the above bears out what I said; vested interest tied COBOL down to the extent that between its inception in 1959 and today there have been only 4 major revisions. That's why it died out and that's what will hapen to web software technology.

PS A Ford Model T engineer would have absolutely no difficulty in understanding and working on a modern car. A 1959 COBOL programmer wouldn't know where to begin with .net etc.

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RE: CSS - 7/19/2005 12:28:01   
quote:

how many wrong statements can you make in one answer
as many as I please.. are you counting?:)
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PS A Ford Model T engineer would have absolutely no difficulty in understanding and working on a modern car.
now that is funny..:)

< Message edited by dpf -- 7/19/2005 12:38:48 >


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RE: CSS - 7/19/2005 12:39:35   
Which bits of a modern car wouldn't a Model T engineer recognise and understand?

Fuel/engine management possibly. Everything else would be identifiable at first glance.

Stick to golf.

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RE: CSS Editor - 7/19/2005 12:46:30   
Does anyone know of any type of editor that will allow you to look at the effects of a css file other than looking directly at your website after changes. Thanks....from a newbie to css

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briesmith

 

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RE: CSS Editor - 7/19/2005 12:57:14   
Countryboy

Try topstyle here. There are others but this integrates with MS FrontPage quite nicely.

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RE: CSS Editor - 7/19/2005 12:57:49   
I'm looking at Alleycode (http://www.alleycode.com/) as a CSS editor. It's free, has built in tutorials and allows one to view their progress.

I'm ALMOST completely ignorant when it comes to CSS, but playing with Alleycode has helped to enlighten me. If I had time, I'd actually read the instructions.

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RE: CSS Editor - 7/19/2005 15:08:44   
If you get Firefox and the Web Developer extension you can bring the CSS up in a left-hand pane (Edit CSS) and fiddle with the CSS and see the results in the main window. You can do this to any website. The changes obviously don't stay put but you can save the changed CSS file if you've got the result you want and then apply it off-line.

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RE: CSS Editor - 7/19/2005 17:51:32   
Frontpage can do a decent job of rendering CSS changes in the preview pane (for IE only). I've heard the same for Dreamweaver (but haven't used it in years)

Theres always the Preview in Browser feature in FP... then you can check it out in any browser you have installed...

The only other one I've used that has a browser-like preview isn't available for Windows.


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RE: CSS Editor - 7/20/2005 11:41:45   
You could also try the 30 day demo version of Style Master

It integrates with Dreamweaver and GoLive, but also works with Frontpage. There is a design pane to see the results of your css on html pages on your machine and a handy browser preview that you can set up with a range of browsers. There are a lot more features, too many to mention here.

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RE: CSS Editor - 7/20/2005 22:10:26   
thanks for all the ideas.

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