Well, heres the problem. When I go to the following page on my PC, this is what it looks like:

http://www.taxster.f2s.com/Image1.jpg

This is what my page looks like when I press the "Preview" button on Frontpage also.

However, when I told my friend to go on the same page, (and this'll work for anyone else apart from me), this is what the page actually looks like:

http://www.taxster.f2s.com/The%20Programs.htm

You'll notice that the text is completely different to what it should be and the words are all unjustified.

You see, when I was creating the page on Frontpage, I changed the font from Times New Roman to another, but it didn't change on the editing page. However, when I pressed "Preview", the text had changed, so I carried on anyway.

And when I published the page, it looked like the way I had actually edited it to make it work for the other font, if ya know what I mean.

So why does everyone see the page this way?

And how can I sort this problem out?? Please tell us, I'm pretty desperate for help.

The reason the font is not showing is because in order for people to see it, it must be installed on their computer. The alternative is to create graphics for those words.

You really, really need to use tables for positioning.

Sandy

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Sandy

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Allegheny Web
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Thanks

I know you didn't ask about this, but the spaces in your file names could cause problems. You should either scrunch the words together or put an underscore_ between them.

Sandy

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[This message has been edited by Goober (edited 07-22-2001).]

[This message has been edited by Goober (edited 07-22-2001).]

Is the text all justified ok? You know where it says [ LINK ], [ REVIEW ] etc., is all that justified for you? And what font are those in? Its not supposed to be Times New Roman, but something else.

1. You are using absolute positioning - doesn't, as applied by FP, work in NN and is tricky to work with even in IE.

2. You are using the space bar to position stuff - that's a big no no, lay your page out using tables instead.

3. You have specified a font called Bank Gothic. I have no idea what this is like. I see the text in my browsers default, I can only see a font if it is installed on my computer so only those with Bank Gothic on their machines will see it as you want. Best to stick with common fonts such as Arial, Verdana, Times New Roman etc.

4. You are pasting in content from Word or some other application. This is throwing in a load of code which is bloating your page. Best to paste from word into Notepad and from there to FP and then format it again.

5. You are using an FP generated style sheet. Not good.

6. You are using scrolling Marquees - they do not work at all in Netscape.

7. Loads of your files - images etc, have spaces in their names. You need to get rid of these.

As Sandy sid earlier you need to look at this in Netscape - it is essentially blank. The reasons for this are a mixture of all the above which are making your code a bit of a mess - IE is a lot more forgiving of bad code than NN is.

I know it may be a heart sinker but I do not think this page can be repaired - you really should scrap it and start again. Before you do plan it out carefully using tables to lay out the content and try to avoid as many of the things listed above as you can.

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InKK Design
LinKKs - Kilkenny's Online Magazine

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"Dogs have owners, cats have staff!"

The font I'm seeing for [REVIEW], etc., is whatever my system's font is. I don't know the name of it. It's the one I see when my computer first boots and what I see in Notepad.

Sandy

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Ed Mazur
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Originally posted by abbeyvet:
I am afraid it is still a mess. Here are just some of the problems

1. You are using absolute positioning - doesn't, as applied by FP, work in NN and is tricky to work with even in IE.

2. You are using the space bar to position stuff - that's a big no no, lay your page out using tables instead.

3. You have specified a font called Bank Gothic. I have no idea what this is like. I see the text in my browsers default, I can only see a font if it is installed on my computer so only those with Bank Gothic on their machines will see it as you want. Best to stick with common fonts such as Arial, Verdana, Times New Roman etc.

4. You are pasting in content from Word or some other application. This is throwing in a load of code which is bloating your page. Best to paste from word into Notepad and from there to FP and then format it again.

5. You are using an FP generated style sheet. Not good.

6. You are using scrolling Marquees - they do not work at all in Netscape.

7. Loads of your files - images etc, have spaces in their names. You need to get rid of these.

As Sandy sid earlier you need to look at this in Netscape - it is essentially blank. The reasons for this are a mixture of all the above which are making your code a bit of a mess - IE is a lot more forgiving of bad code than NN is.

I know it may be a heart sinker but I do not think this page can be repaired - you really should scrap it and start again. Before you do plan it out carefully using tables to lay out the content and try to avoid as many of the things listed above as you can.

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Thanks a lot for all the information. Starting again was the one thing I feared. I've put so much hard work into that site and its pretty much all gone to waste

Hmm..........I guess thats the way it is. I'll just say now in a last bitter comment to end this topic - Frontpage really does suck :P

It's rough when you get the "start over" answer.

I remember my first site. i was amazed anyone hung around long enough to order.

Best advise is read, read, read and play with the design.

Hang in there!!!

Brian

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I do sympathise, starting again is such a pain but you have not wasted your time. Next time reound you have your content at the ready which will speed things up and it has been a learning experience.

As for FrontPage - I wouldn't say it sucks. Like all wysiwyg editors it has it's limitations. The trick is learning what it can and cannot do and the best way to use it. Many of the items I mentioned above - eg font issues, absolute positioning, importing from other programmes etc - are not issues related to FP at all, they are either limitations imposed by HTML or by browser compatibility or just by the way computers work.

The other really really important piece of advice is to download Netscape and test test test as you go to make sure everything works.
You can also test your site in different browser versions at www.anybrowser.com

Good luck with it.

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Katherine

InKK Design
LinKKs - Kilkenny's Online Magazine

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"Dogs have owners, cats have staff!"

Hang in there. Your site was not a waste of time. It's how we all have learned or are learning.

Marr

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Marrianne Williams
OutFront News
Stu Reilly Design
SwishToGo.com

Anyway, the whole point of my ramble here is that sometimes you don't appreciate an editor until you've done everything by hand (and some people still do - I applaud them). I've found that having a knowledge of HTML and how web pages are created and viewed, so you can do better design layout and manually edit the code that FP generates, is something that would helpful to many authors.

I would highly suggest learning some HTML to anyone who has only used FP as a WYSIWIG editor and has the time to do so. There's so much more that you can do once you have the concept of "how it works" down.

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Check this out, it'll really help:

http://www.outfront.net/frontpagetables.htm

Another thing to consider is ... TEMPLATES,
They're inexpensive....I swear by them.

Good luck