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womble Posts: 5721 Joined: 3/14/2005 From: Living on the edge Status: offline	<noscript> tags and the W3C validator - 9/7/2005 15:35:24 Something strange appears to be going on. I have a xhtml strict page which validated perfectly, until I put <noscript> tags in to satisfy accessibility concerns. I've taken the <noscript> tags out and the page validates again, but with it in it just refuses to validate. Any ideas anyone? _____________________________ ~~ "A cruel god ain't no god at all" ~~ ~~ Erase hate. Practice love. ~~

jaybee

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RE: <noscript> tags and the W3C validator - 9/7/2005 16:38:52

I have <noscript> tags that validate transitional

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en">

<script type="text/javascript" src="http://www.makepovertyhistory.org/whiteband_small_right.js">
</script>
<noscript><a href="http://www.makepovertyhistory.org/" title="go to the make poverty history web site">
http://www.makepovertyhistory.org</a></noscript>

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Date and Time: 9/7/2005 4:29:40 PM
Passed Automated Verification

< Message edited by jaybee -- 9/7/2005 16:44:44 >

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If it ain't broke..... fix it until it is.

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Now where did I put that Doctype?

(in reply to womble)


womble Posts: 5721 Joined: 3/14/2005 From: Living on the edge Status: offline	RE: <noscript> tags and the W3C validator - 9/7/2005 16:47:38 That's what I thought, but I can't see what. If I comment them out it validates fine. I've been having a hunt round and it seems a few people elsewhere have been having the same problem. Someone suggested a fix by putting them in a <div>, but I've tried that and still not validating... This is the page I'm having problems on (not tried on any of the others yet) _____________________________ ~~ "A cruel god ain't no god at all" ~~ ~~ Erase hate. Practice love. ~~ (in reply to jaybee)


Tailslide Posts: 6370 Joined: 5/10/2005 From: Out here on the raggedy edge Status: offline	RE: <noscript> tags and the W3C validator - 9/7/2005 17:41:27 Which one is giving you problems (or is it all of them?). Far as I remember you can't use <noscript> in the <head> section though. I don't use <noscript>s - too many problems with them. I know there's a school of thought that every script should have a <noscript> but I don't think it's always necessary. If the Javascript concerned is affecting accessibility then a <noscript> might be a good idea - a server-side alternative is better though if possible. If it doesn't affect accessibility then I wouldn't bother. Because I've not got around to working out the server-side stylesheet switcher yet, I've used document.write to write the toggles for the text size stylesheet switcher on my site - no Javascript - no switcher. There is, however an explanation on the accessibility page about how they can increase the text in their browser. I've also now steered towards scripts that will "fail-safe" with JS off - so that for instance in a section visibility toggle script - all the sections are visible when JS is switched off - no need for a <noscript>. Edit: This is a quote from the Webaim site regarding a cosmetic Javascript effect: "In this example, there is no important content or functionality introduced by the JavaScript. The swapping of images is purely cosmetic..... No additional accessibility techniques are required." < Message edited by Tailslide -- 9/7/2005 18:05:08 > _____________________________ Little Blue Plane Web Design \| Land Rover project (in reply to womble)


womble Posts: 5721 Joined: 3/14/2005 From: Living on the edge Status: offline	RE: <noscript> tags and the W3C validator - 9/7/2005 17:58:40 I've just realised two of them were in the <head> section (this is what happens if you stare at the screen all day) The other one, with all the tweaking I'd done, I'd got an extra </p> after the no-script. Taken out and all validates now. Thanks. /sneak off quietly feeling very silly... _____________________________ ~~ "A cruel god ain't no god at all" ~~ ~~ Erase hate. Practice love. ~~ (in reply to Tailslide)


jaybee Posts: 14210 Joined: 10/7/2003 From: Berkshire, UK Status: offline	RE: <noscript> tags and the W3C validator - 9/8/2005 2:41:22 quote: /sneak off quietly feeling very silly... No comment Psssst. Always post a url, that way we can see the problem immediately rather than having to guess. _____________________________ If it ain't broke..... fix it until it is. GAWDS Now where did I put that Doctype? (in reply to womble)