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Nicole
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Is this too plain? - 9/17/2005 3:34:50
Hi everyone, I'm creating a new tamplate and am wondering whether you folks think it's a bit too plain? I started with an idea for a background image, so I guess I deserve to be in trouble trying to make it look good with content in. Firstly, I'm experimenting a lot with this template, i've set a fixed pixel height, so i'm wondering whether it looks okay on people's browser windows and/or what problems i may encounter from setting a fixed height. I'm also wondering whether the opening page looks too plain? I tend to think it does but would value other opinions. Also, do you think it's okay to have the links right/bottom aligned on the opening page and top/left aligned on the other pages? Page One Page Two Nicole
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RE: Is this too plain? - 9/17/2005 3:53:16
i like it! not too plain, i think elegant or delicate is a better term ;) personally i'm ok with the links
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RE: Is this too plain? - 9/17/2005 3:57:57
how does it look on the second page with text? you can always use this http://www.lipsum.com/ for some dummy copy (there's a dreamweaver extension as well if you use DW)
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RE: Is this too plain? - 9/17/2005 4:03:35
that dosn't matter! it's more to add a bit of ambience to the site rather than being able to make out what the image is :)
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RE: Is this too plain? - 9/17/2005 4:15:42
You don't want the background image any more visible otherwise the text becomes too hard to read. Only things I'd look at would be to add a focus effect like the hover one so that when you tab through the nav lights up - goes before hover in the CSS link styling - LVFHA (Lord Vader's Former Handle Annakin) The only other thing that might cause problems for people is that there's no <h1> tag on the page which will help with SEO plus with the unstyled version.
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Nicole
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RE: Is this too plain? - 9/17/2005 20:07:59
Thanks Womble, Tail & Dave, I've made some changes this morning, just added the focus thing which is pretty neat, though I don't particularly like how it keeps the broken border around the focussed area as it does when there is no border (as is the case with the skip links at the top). This is only the first template in this style, now I know what I'm doing and that others think it looks okay, I'll make some more but this time I'll start from what I know the page could look like in the end rather than just having an image of the background in my mind to begin with as was the case this time. i.e. I'll position the background so that any parts of it that I want to remain visible, will be visible when content is added. The thing which really annoys me mostly is that some fonts can look great at certain sizes, or in bold or not in bold, but as soon as they're resized they begin to look amateurish. But if you don't want to use images you have to stick with the most popular fonts or have a font-family longer than most human extended families. Surely it's not that difficult to incorporate thousands of fonts with each OS release, or add them to upgrades? Nicole p.s. Womble, I agree with you about the navigation only partly being above the fold at 800x600, this is what I mean by starting with a background image rather than an idea of how it's going to look in a website. Next time i'll fade the image from the top so that the blank space is more at the top, but then it'll be more difficult to control the no-repeat.
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RE: Is this too plain? - 9/17/2005 22:55:56
A useful Fx extension is LoremIpsum Content Generator 0.4.1 which can be set to copy to clipboard too. Eg.Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis autem vel eum iriure dolor in hendrerit in vulputate velit esse molestie consequat, vel illum dolore eu feugiat nulla facilisis at vero eros et accumsan et iusto odio dignissim qui blandit praesent luptatum zzril delenit augue duis dolore te feugait nulla facilisi. Nifty, eh?
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RE: Is this too plain? - 9/18/2005 5:44:51
for dw users there's the extension in the exchange part of the mm site or you can download it from here http://pp.kpnet.fi/prescott/lorem_ipsum.mxp
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RE: Is this too plain? - 9/19/2005 9:54:10
looks really nice! i like the white but it looks a bit strange on the lower links that have a background closer to white, so the pink is good! maybe slightly paler than it is, or more vibrant than it is!
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RE: Is this too plain? - 9/19/2005 11:50:17
Still elegant! Other observations... The white rollover effect on the nav is disconcerting - it is obviously visible over the flower image but hardly noticeable further down. Was it just me or was the first page slow loading given the fact that it only has one image (?) Going back to your last... Did anyone point out the missing apostrophe? quote:
WOMEN'S
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RE: Is this too plain? - 9/19/2005 12:07:57
third post of the thread "Oh, and I know I forgot the ' in Women's! " :)
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RE: Is this too plain? - 9/19/2005 12:17:31
I like it... clean and fast...
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RE: Is this too plain? - 9/19/2005 12:28:11
lol :)
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RE: Is this too plain? - 9/20/2005 9:08:33
Loaded up fine this time Nicole - have you compressed it a little more?
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