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Problems with a cell... - 10/8/2005 17:52:04
I have just installed a new template on my web site.
The top portion of it has a table which has several cells for graphics and background.
One particular cell of that table I was going to put in a 468 X 60 graphic (gif or jpg). However, when I publish it to the web, it does not appear.
I have done several variations to that graphic but nothing seems to display it.
Text works fine in that cell. And does a couple of other graphics that I have previously made. I was wondering if there is anything that is set up as a parameter that needs to be tweeked. Or if there is any other control that I need to be aware of.
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RE: Problems with a cell... - 10/8/2005 18:02:49
we need to see the url or the code. did you upload/publish the image along with the page?
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RE: Problems with a cell... - 10/8/2005 19:05:43
The URL is:
www.NationalSummary.com/
Yes, I uploaded several versions of the graphic. I even removed it entirely from the server and uploaded it again.
It will be obvious where it should be because on the top is a gap where the 468 by 60 graphic should be...
It is on the other web pages as well. I didn't have the top part as part of my includes so I manually put it on all of my web pages just to find out that it doesn't work...
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RE: Problems with a cell... - 10/8/2005 20:26:20
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src="graphics/miscellaneous/top_banner2.gif" src="graphics/miscellaneous/top_banner3.gif" images/corner.gif you have image links to different folders. I suspect you did upload the image but not to the correct folder.
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RE: Problems with a cell... - 10/9/2005 1:15:48
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src="graphics/miscellaneous/top_banner2.gif" src="graphics/miscellaneous/top_banner3.gif" images/corner.gif you have image links to different folders. I suspect you did upload the image but not to the correct folder.
This is really the craziest thing.
I went into my own hard drive and deleted everything in that "miscellaneous" folder. Nothing is in it. I created a new folder called "banners" and put the graphic in there. My HTML reads:
src="graphics/banners/top_banner3.gif"
There is nothing else in that "banners" folder other than the file "top_banner3.gif"
When I published to my server, I even went into the "miscellaneous" folder on the server and deleted everything out of it.
Now that it is uploaded, it still doesn't show up. I have gone through quite a few variations of this throughout the day but I still cannot get the graphic to show up.
The odd thing about this is that it shows up fine the PREVIEW feature of FrontPage. It looks exactly the way I want it to but only in PREVIEW.
Now here is where it gets weird. I put text into that same cell and publish it. It shows up fine. I even insert another totally different .gif into it and it displays fine when it is published to the server.
Now I wonder if it is something about the cell itself...
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RE: Problems with a cell... - 10/9/2005 10:50:05
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Now here is where it gets weird. I put text into that same cell and publish it. It shows up fine. actually,that isnt wierd. text is in your html so it will show. an image is seperate and you have to have the exact path and file name spelling for it to be found. somehow, the path you are describing or the file name spelling doesnt match the server - while it does match your hard drive - that is whyit shows one place and not the other. keep looking
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RE: Problems with a cell... - 10/9/2005 12:42:46
I don't understand this...
I went ahead and used View Source of my browser to pull up the HTML in Notepad. I used the Find feature and I could not locate that GIF. It wasn't in there.
I thought that whatever I uploaded to the server, FrontPage would automatically load whatever I have on my local drive.
That GIF shows up fine in PREVIEW of FrontPage, therefore that GIF is properly inside of my file on my local drive. But when I publish my FrontPage, isn't everything supposed to get published?
What can I do to correctly upload this to my server?
I have even created a new folder to put the GIF into and that doesn't seem to work. My other updates or changes seem to work just fine so I don't understand why this doesn't work properly.
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RE: Problems with a cell... - 10/9/2005 14:52:36
lets go back to fundamentals - you have a lot of pages..which page are you talking about? the topbanner3 shows on the home page... here: quote:
<img border="0" src="graphics/banners/top_banner3.gif" width="468" height="60"> another banner shows on international page.and on national, nothing shows but national isnt pointing to topbanner3 : here is what the source for national shows:quote:
<img border="1" src="graphics/miscellaneous/RickPerryWorld4.jpg" width="468" height="60">
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RE: Problems with a cell... - 10/9/2005 15:07:49
Right now it is topbanner3.gif.
I originally had the other gif in its place but I could not seem to get any banner to work.
The issue is not really with the GIF itself. It is that cell. It seems like just about any banner I put in there does not want to display.
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RE: Problems with a cell... - 10/9/2005 15:52:40
which page???? the banner shows on ur home page. u are not listening! the only page where u have top banner in ur code is home and it shows there - its not in the other pages
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RE: Problems with a cell... - 10/9/2005 18:33:28
lol
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RE: Problems with a cell... - 10/9/2005 20:54:43
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which page???? the banner shows on ur home page. u are not listening! the only page where u have top banner in ur code is home and it shows there - its not in the other pages
Wait a minute...
Are you trying to tell me that this banner (on the upper right hand side) is displaying on your browser (on the home page)?
I have removed the previous graphic from the server. I only have this new one "top_banner3.gif" on the home page.
Once I get this corrected on the home page, then I will insert it on every web page (I am waiting until I solve this problem because the top part is not an "includes" page so I have to insert it manually on every page).
It does not display on my browser. It shows up fine in the FrontPage PREVIEW.
I just downloaded the latest Netscape browser and it doesn't show up there either.
I am only using one computer to develop this so I have not been able to view my site on a different computer yet.
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RE: Problems with a cell... - 10/10/2005 10:18:58
I feel like the word PENDEJO should be written across my forehead...
And I do feel like such a pendejo...
I am soooooooooo sorry... I didn't know what the hell you were talking about until I stepped into work just right now and looked at the site from a different computer and saw the banner displayed.
I don't understand this...
Why would this banner not display on my own browser at home?
The same thing happened on my other site. I am using the exact same template and I had the same issue with the banner. But this morning looking at it from my computer at work, it shows up fine. I didn't jack with it since I figured that whatever problem was with the first site, it was going to be the same with the second one.
The banner looks just fine. And I spent countless hours on Saturday and more on Sunday, uploading, deleting, re-arranging, etc... I could have actually finished my migration to the new template if I wasn't screwing around with this...
But I suppose this leads me to a bigger question.
Why did this happen?
Why is it that my Internet Explorer at home didn't show the banner. I even downloaded the latest version of the Netscape browser and it didn't show up either.
How am I supposed to test and review things if my own browser at home doesn't show me exactly what is on the server?
Anyway, this is just strange... Is this part of a FrontPage problem or is it with my own home computer...
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RE: Problems with a cell... - 10/10/2005 12:00:57
sometimes... the problem is that while you have uploaded something new, what is being delivered to your browser is the old ..from cache..it could be your pc cache or your isp. in your case, as you changed the html on the page to point to new banner name, it ay have been delivering the old html.
easy step that sometimes fixes is to delte your system cache (temporary internet files). if it is your isp caching them, it can take a few days. i have a customer who never sees changes i make until days after i do.
one trick jaybee taught me is to change the file and image name so that the cached one cant be delivered. it has to find the new one - if the page is index.htm change to index.html but make sure and let FP redo all the links.
frustrating, isnt it?
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RE: Problems with a cell... - 10/10/2005 21:36:34
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frustrating, isnt it?
It sucks big green donkey cojones...
During my work day, the browser from my computer at work showed the banner. But when I got home from work and took a look at it again, it still doesn't display the banner.
And it doesn't show up on my other web site.
Is there anything that I can insert into my html so that it empties out the cache?
Right now, this is what I have in the index page:
<meta name="revisit-after" content="7 days">
<meta http-equiv="cache-control" content="no-cache">
<meta http-equiv="pragma" content="no-cache">
<meta name="robots" content="follow, index">
All the other web pages have:
<meta http-equiv="cache-control" content="no-cache">
<meta http-equiv="pragma" content="no-cache">
Is there anything else I can stick in there, like a script or a meta tag to ensure that the latest version does display.
But here is something I really don't understand.
I have made "other" changes to the index page and it does show those changes, EXCEPT for the banner. That is where I don't think it is the cache that is the issue...
Any ideas or suggestions...
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