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Taz Posts: 2795 Joined: 7/6/2004 From: U.K (Formerly outer space.) Status: offline	SATA drive install woes - 10/27/2005 17:42:18 Trying to install a brand new SATA drive as an Operating System drive. Can't get it to install/recognize the SATA HDD/complete the OS install. I have selected SATA support in BIOS. 40GB SATA Hitachi Deskstar HDD XP Pro 3 Gig P4 Prescot CPU ASUS P4SU800D-X MOBO I have a 3 and a half inch floppy with the files for the F6 additional SCSI adapters/RAID files from ASUS website, placed on floppy by the .exe that comes with the download. I didn't get a floppy with the files on with the MOBO or the HDD so had to download from ASUS site. I get to the install XP bit where you press F6 and then select the drivers you wanna add. I am given these choices: WinXP SiS964 Raid Controller Win2000 SiS964 Raid Controller WinXP SiS180 Raid Controller Win2000 SiS180 Raid Controller So, umm which of the XP am I supposed to pick? I have tried both but both lead me to a screen that states: quote: Setup did not find any hard disk drives installed in your computer. Make sure any HDD's are powered on and properly connected (I am pretty damnd sure they are cos it sees it as a primary SATA on Boot screen) and that any disk-related jardware config is correct. This may involve running a manufacturer-supplied diagnostic or set up program. Set up cannot continue, to quit set up press F3 Am I missing some setting in BIOS before getting to this stage or have I got the wrong files on the floppy even though they came from ASUS site for my MoBO? I have followed several different Googled answers/forum posts about this but still can't get past this stage and it's doing my ****ing head in. HELP SAVE MY SANITY PLEASE! :nfi What exact files should I need on this floppy to do what needs doing so the system sees and allows me to install XP OS on the SATA drive. What settings must be enabled in BIOS so that SATA will be seen and work to allow an OS install on it? HELLLLP MEEEEEEEEE. Pwease. :(( _____________________________ Smiley T-Shirts and other Geeky fun stuff, Smileys and phpbb Smiley paks.


jaybee Posts: 14016 Joined: 10/7/2003 From: Berkshire, UK Status: offline	RE: SATA drive install woes - 10/27/2005 18:09:48 OK, suggestion 1: Open window, throw out SATA drive, close window. Suggestion 2: (The expert says) get hold of the CD for the motherboard. Should have been supplied with the board. Unless it was a hooky board go back to seller and ask for one. _____________________________ If it ain't broke..... fix it until it is. GAWDS Now where did I put that Doctype? (in reply to Taz)

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RE: SATA drive install woes - 10/27/2005 18:36:12

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ORIGINAL: jaybee

OK, suggestion 1:

Open window, throw out SATA drive, close window.

Not an option, SATA is the way forward I am not stepping back from the plate till I hit a homerun.

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Suggestion 2:

(The expert says) get hold of the CD for the motherboard. Should have been supplied with the board. Unless it was a hooky board go back to seller and ask for one.

It's a legit, brand new MOBO, I have a CD but from all sites and geek forums I have looked at the required files need to be on a floppy not a CD. I will try that approach in a minute though.

Thanks for the reply Jaybee, appreciated. (:

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jaybee Posts: 14016 Joined: 10/7/2003 From: Berkshire, UK Status: offline	RE: SATA drive install woes - 10/27/2005 19:39:19 I've got a SATA on XP Pro so if you are still stuck 2morrow I'll check out my settings. _____________________________ If it ain't broke..... fix it until it is. GAWDS Now where did I put that Doctype? (in reply to Taz)


Taz Posts: 2795 Joined: 7/6/2004 From: U.K (Formerly outer space.) Status: offline	RE: SATA drive install woes - 10/27/2005 19:43:50 Very much appreciated, ta. Post anyway please as I can then set up an idiots guide for my own reference and others, will credit you for relevant info. (: _____________________________ Smiley T-Shirts and other Geeky fun stuff, Smileys and phpbb Smiley paks. (in reply to jaybee)


Taz Posts: 2795 Joined: 7/6/2004 From: U.K (Formerly outer space.) Status: offline	RE: SATA drive install woes - 10/28/2005 11:29:08 Right, someone elsewhere spotted a clanger I droipped, trying to install SiS drivers, not SATA RAID ones, so fast change about and located the ones I should be using... Anyhoo, same story, installs them and then tells me no hardware/disk can be located. ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH _____________________________ Smiley T-Shirts and other Geeky fun stuff, Smileys and phpbb Smiley paks. (in reply to Taz)


jaybee Posts: 14016 Joined: 10/7/2003 From: Berkshire, UK Status: offline	RE: SATA drive install woes - 10/28/2005 11:48:00 quote: not SATA RAID ones, so fast change about and located the ones I should be using... Will post tomorrow. You've checked your BIOS for RAID settings? _____________________________ If it ain't broke..... fix it until it is. GAWDS Now where did I put that Doctype? (in reply to Taz)


Taz Posts: 2795 Joined: 7/6/2004 From: U.K (Formerly outer space.) Status: offline	RE: SATA drive install woes - 10/28/2005 12:01:31 Have set it enabled for OnChip SATA Controller in the Main BIOS section Then when it boots it checks first for a primary SATA/secondary SATA. While it does not say it has found the primary SATA (It leaves the space for HDD name/specs blank) it states no Secondary SATA is present, it then continues with boot sequence/install OS rigmaroll. Can't locate any other mention of SATA/SATA RAID in BIOS than Enabling OnChip SATA Controller in the Main BIOS section If OnChip bit in BIOS is not enabled without a SATA Drive and using IDE it skips looking for SATA drives and boots faster that way. For some reason I can't help thinking the new SATA drive needs some form of formatting or something, but how can that be right if the pooter can't see it. I checked the MOBO install disk and the only SATA set up floppy file .exe is again for the SiS stuff, not SATA RAID. Which wrong tree am I barking up here cos this is doing my fruit in. If I knew exactly which bloody files from the MOBO install disk I need to get it working I would manually hunt them and add them and go that way, but I can't seem to find a list or an exact download from ASUS site about/for this. Their forum is less than usefull to say the least. The manual does not even touch on this, every bloody thing else part from the info I want. _____________________________ Smiley T-Shirts and other Geeky fun stuff, Smileys and phpbb Smiley paks. (in reply to jaybee)


BobbyDouglas Posts: 5437 Joined: 5/15/2003 From: Arizona Status: offline	RE: SATA drive install woes - 10/29/2005 2:17:17 quote: (The expert says) get hold of the CD for the motherboard. Should have been supplied with the board. Unless it was a hooky board go back to seller and ask for one. - A CD won't be able to install the required Raid drivers. Taz, according to your settings, you are running "40GB SATA Hitachi Deskstar HDD" why are you installing Raid drivers? I would reset all of your BIOS settings, as it seems you have played around with a few things. Then install XP Pro on the SATA drive. There is no need to install the raid drivers, if you are not using raid. The only reason why you would install them is to have the XP installer see one or more drives, as a single drive. You can install & configure raid later, and use something like partition magic to re-create your partitions. When I was trying to configure the raid 0+1 with my 4 raptors, I had a very hard time doing so without a floppy drive. After awhile I finally figured out what was up, and configured the raid. The problem was that some drives were already formatted, and XP still saw two drives, instead of one 168gb drive. I ended up using a partition program to partition my drive so that it shows up as one 168gb drive instead of the two. If what I said above about the drives does not work, try the drive in another computer to make sure it is good. _____________________________ Arizona Web Design - Mr Bobs Web Design in Arizona The Arizona Web Hosting Challenge (in reply to Taz)


jaybee Posts: 14016 Joined: 10/7/2003 From: Berkshire, UK Status: offline	RE: SATA drive install woes - 10/29/2005 5:19:54 quote: A CD won't be able to install the required Raid drivers. No, but it should have the documentation on it to tell you what to do. _____________________________ If it ain't broke..... fix it until it is. GAWDS Now where did I put that Doctype? (in reply to BobbyDouglas)


BobbyDouglas Posts: 5437 Joined: 5/15/2003 From: Arizona Status: offline	RE: SATA drive install woes - 10/29/2005 5:32:08 quote: No, but it should have the documentation on it to tell you what to do. - It has the same stuff the manual has. The procedure for installing XP on a drive that is configured for Raid, is to push F6 when XP says "Insert floppy disk and press F6 if installing RAID drivers". The CD would only have the manual on it. My motherboard came with two types of raid options. A Silicon Raid5, and standard onboard raid. Both have drivers on a floppy disk. If raid was configured in the BIOS and you tried to install XP, when you select the drive to install to, it wouldn't be shown as one drive (like it is listed in the BIOS), it would be shown as multiple drives, and you would have to select the correct drive to install it on. The reason for installing the raid drivers in the first place is so that XP sees the drives in a raid config. _____________________________ Arizona Web Design - Mr Bobs Web Design in Arizona The Arizona Web Hosting Challenge (in reply to jaybee)


jaybee Posts: 14016 Joined: 10/7/2003 From: Berkshire, UK Status: offline	RE: SATA drive install woes - 10/29/2005 11:23:37 I am out of my depth here but here's my other half...... Setting up RAID isn't the issue here. The motherboard has two connectors for two HDDs and they will use the SATA controller whether RAID is enabled or not which is why you need the controller driver. The SATA controller will be part of the I/O controller hub. The drivers may be part of the chipset drivers. Harvey Will source some more info later but he has to go out now. _____________________________ If it ain't broke..... fix it until it is. GAWDS Now where did I put that Doctype? (in reply to BobbyDouglas)


Taz Posts: 2795 Joined: 7/6/2004 From: U.K (Formerly outer space.) Status: offline	RE: SATA drive install woes - 10/29/2005 12:32:39 quote: ORIGINAL: BobbyDouglas Taz, according to your settings, you are running "40GB SATA Hitachi Deskstar HDD" why are you installing Raid drivers? I would reset all of your BIOS settings, as it seems you have played around with a few things. Then install XP Pro on the SATA drive. There is no need to install the raid drivers, if you are not using raid. The only reason why you would install them is to have the XP installer see one or more drives, as a single drive. This is what we hit upon last night, and yet to try it but it should be the right way and I am trying to complicate matters more than need be. (Mainly due to checking before hand issues relating to installing SATA onto this MOBO via Google and as all the info lead us to this route I went along with it thinking it was saving me time and trouble!) Will try the conventional way next week, so thanks for all involved so far, least I learned new stuff even if it was before I actually needed too. _____________________________ Smiley T-Shirts and other Geeky fun stuff, Smileys and phpbb Smiley paks. (in reply to BobbyDouglas)


Taz Posts: 2795 Joined: 7/6/2004 From: U.K (Formerly outer space.) Status: offline	RE: SATA drive install woes - 11/3/2005 10:45:20 2 X Western Digital 80GB SATA drives installed, RAID'd together (RAID 0) and an OS installed and running as they should be, also added ATA drive and everything boots as it should in the right order, woooohoooo. _____________________________ Smiley T-Shirts and other Geeky fun stuff, Smileys and phpbb Smiley paks. (in reply to Taz)


BobbyDouglas Posts: 5437 Joined: 5/15/2003 From: Arizona Status: offline	RE: SATA drive install woes - 11/3/2005 12:35:51 Let me guess, you don't know what you did differently to get it working? _____________________________ Arizona Web Design - Mr Bobs Web Design in Arizona The Arizona Web Hosting Challenge (in reply to Taz)


Taz Posts: 2795 Joined: 7/6/2004 From: U.K (Formerly outer space.) Status: offline	RE: SATA drive install woes - 11/3/2005 14:32:54 NAhhh I did know what I was doing this time around cos I was doing it all last week and this but with only one drive. Still never managed to get a single SATA working, whihc I think may be down to a b0rk SATA drive (Hitachi). _____________________________ Smiley T-Shirts and other Geeky fun stuff, Smileys and phpbb Smiley paks. (in reply to BobbyDouglas)


womble Posts: 5471 Joined: 3/14/2005 From: Living on the edge Status: offline	RE: SATA drive install woes - 11/3/2005 14:46:10 Congrats Taz! _____________________________ ~~ "A cruel god ain't no god at all" ~~ (in reply to Taz)


Taz Posts: 2795 Joined: 7/6/2004 From: U.K (Formerly outer space.) Status: offline	RE: SATA drive install woes - 11/3/2005 16:04:49 dank00 =] Also just installed and now have working an all in one 3 and a half inch floppy with media card reader. So no more naff external USB reader requireed and it's a nice silver one so matches up with the rest of my kit. It's been a bloody good day today hehehe. _____________________________ Smiley T-Shirts and other Geeky fun stuff, Smileys and phpbb Smiley paks. (in reply to womble)


jaybee Posts: 14016 Joined: 10/7/2003 From: Berkshire, UK Status: offline	RE: SATA drive install woes - 11/3/2005 17:37:08 Taz, the expert has just asked me to mention that Raid 0 has no redundancy so if one of the drives goes you've lost the lot. Now it just occured to me that you'd never have got one drive working, you'd have to have two. Raid is going to need 2 drives unless it's SCSI? No? _____________________________ If it ain't broke..... fix it until it is. GAWDS Now where did I put that Doctype? (in reply to Taz)


Taz Posts: 2795 Joined: 7/6/2004 From: U.K (Formerly outer space.) Status: offline	RE: SATA drive install woes - 11/3/2005 17:44:13 The RAID'd drives are my OS drives, as such only my OS and progs gets slapped on it, so if it goes down I replace one, and reinstall, no major dramas involved in that. Each of the RAID'd SATA drives has a double underslung fan to help cooling/prolong lifespan too. As for the single attempt, I tried to just get my PC to see it and install an OS on it and couldn't get that far. That was before I tried installing drivers for RAID and such to see if I was missing anything, so I believe the drive is screwed on delivery. _____________________________ Smiley T-Shirts and other Geeky fun stuff, Smileys and phpbb Smiley paks. (in reply to jaybee)

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