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Nescesito Posts: 2 Joined: 10/27/2005 Status: offline	help required for making a site :S - 10/27/2005 18:36:50 Okay, so my boss wants me to make a web site for my division. I got teamed up with the technical guy, who, using notepad, made a piece of junk site that had unresponsive buttons and broken tables. Irritated, I got Frontpage 2003 and am using it on my Office XP. There seems to be many, many problems, though. Every time I change the slightest thing, it changes everything. I even ran out and bought 'Frontpage for dummies', but that didn't help me. I don't have time to learn this whole process, because I need results by Monday. Can anybody please aid me in constructing this site? Please contact me through email at Phoenix_Trex AT Yahoo DOT com if you can help me out. Thank you very much.


jaybee Posts: 14152 Joined: 10/7/2003 From: Berkshire, UK Status: offline	RE: help required for making a site :S - 10/27/2005 19:44:48 quote: I don't have time to learn this whole process, because I need results by Monday. You are joking! There are pros on here who could do it but they'd need to drop their paid clients work and that's not going to happen. Fact is, you go back to your boss and you tell him that it's not as easy as everyone thinks, your tech guy messed up what he did and you're not a web designer. You then tell him you need training and then time to do it properly or he can cough up for a web pro to do it. _____________________________ If it ain't broke..... fix it until it is. GAWDS Now where did I put that Doctype? (in reply to Nescesito)


Taz Posts: 2827 Joined: 7/6/2004 From: U.K (Formerly outer space.) Status: offline	RE: help required for making a site :S - 10/27/2005 19:50:52 /grabs popcorn and waits for Merlin, Houdini and Paul Daniels to make an appearance to sort this one out by that deadline _____________________________ Smiley T-Shirts and other Geeky fun stuff, Smileys and phpbb Smiley paks. (in reply to jaybee)


dpf Posts: 7121 Joined: 11/12/2003 From: India-napolis Status: offline	RE: help required for making a site :S - 10/27/2005 20:26:08 quote: Fact is, you go back to your boss and you tell him that it's not as easy as everyone thinks, your tech guy messed up what he did and you're not a web designer. You then tell him you need training and then time to do it properly or he can cough up for a web pro to do it. exactly. and in fairness to the "tech guy", there is a mistaken perception that once someone is knowledge in some area of computers, they are expected to be knowledgeable in all. M brother is a fine real estate lawyer but if I were arrested on a criminal charge, I wouldn't call him. And when i had kidney stones, my family doc didn't treat them. by monday? outrageous! _____________________________ Dan (in reply to jaybee)


Taz Posts: 2827 Joined: 7/6/2004 From: U.K (Formerly outer space.) Status: offline	RE: help required for making a site :S - 10/27/2005 20:30:47 Wanna go halves on a pizza while we wait mate? _____________________________ Smiley T-Shirts and other Geeky fun stuff, Smileys and phpbb Smiley paks. (in reply to dpf)


dpf Posts: 7121 Joined: 11/12/2003 From: India-napolis Status: offline	RE: help required for making a site :S - 10/27/2005 20:35:18 lol..and a beer _____________________________ Dan (in reply to Taz)


Taz Posts: 2827 Joined: 7/6/2004 From: U.K (Formerly outer space.) Status: offline	RE: help required for making a site :S - 10/27/2005 20:36:07 Proper British beer? Not that nats urine you call beer. ;) _____________________________ Smiley T-Shirts and other Geeky fun stuff, Smileys and phpbb Smiley paks. (in reply to dpf)


dpf Posts: 7121 Joined: 11/12/2003 From: India-napolis Status: offline	RE: help required for making a site :S - 10/27/2005 20:37:25 quote: Proper British beer? Not that nats urine you call beer. ;) exactly. i cannot drink american beer. some canadian - LaBatts or Molsons but I prefer english - samuel smiths or Bass - there are probably many that Ive never heard of that i would love. one day soon..... _____________________________ Dan (in reply to Taz)


Taz Posts: 2827 Joined: 7/6/2004 From: U.K (Formerly outer space.) Status: offline	RE: help required for making a site :S - 10/27/2005 20:43:06 You can get Boddingtons over there, right? A mate of mine from stateside lurves it. :) _____________________________ Smiley T-Shirts and other Geeky fun stuff, Smileys and phpbb Smiley paks. (in reply to dpf)


dpf Posts: 7121 Joined: 11/12/2003 From: India-napolis Status: offline	RE: help required for making a site :S - 10/27/2005 20:44:37 forgot about boddingtons - i like that tho Bass ale is my fav. I have made "English Bitters" from a recipie book which i also love _____________________________ Dan (in reply to Taz)


Taz Posts: 2827 Joined: 7/6/2004 From: U.K (Formerly outer space.) Status: offline	RE: help required for making a site :S - 10/27/2005 20:50:31 I was raised on Bass and lemonade as a kid, Shandy we call it, loved it. =] _____________________________ Smiley T-Shirts and other Geeky fun stuff, Smileys and phpbb Smiley paks. (in reply to dpf)


Donkey Posts: 3869 Joined: 11/13/2001 From: Blackfield United Kingdom Status: offline	RE: help required for making a site :S - 10/27/2005 20:55:27 quote: ORIGINAL: dpf quote: Proper British beer? Not that nats urine you call beer. ;) exactly. i cannot drink american beer. some canadian - LaBatts or Molsons but I prefer english - samuel smiths or Bass - there are probably many that Ive never heard of that i would love. one day soon..... Wadworths 6X is my favourite. (If kept right and served from the barrel without gas pumps and at one degree Centigrade below ambient temperature). Bass is good I had a pint of that on Monday if I hadn't been driving I would have had a few more. /back on topic Nescesito, are you a religious person? It's a long shot but I should think that you are down to relying on divine intervention if even the Dummies book is no help. _____________________________ I have a higher and grander standard of principle than George Washington. He could not lie; I can, but I won't. Samuel Clemens (in reply to dpf)


caz Posts: 3520 Joined: 10/10/2001 From: Somewhere south of Chester, UK Status: offline	RE: help required for making a site :S - 10/27/2005 20:59:13 To get back to the original question...sigh...is there a url for this site so that we can at least try to help out _____________________________ Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will dance, or more on your keyboard. Cheshire cat. www.doracat.co.uk I remember when it took less than 4hrs to fly across the Atlantic. (in reply to Donkey)


Taz Posts: 2827 Joined: 7/6/2004 From: U.K (Formerly outer space.) Status: offline	RE: help required for making a site :S - 10/27/2005 21:03:21 quote: ORIGINAL: caz To get back to the original question...sigh...is there a url for this site so that we can at least try to help out Yeah, I suppose that would be a start and we should put questions of myth, magic and faith aside and see how far the sea is that needs parting... _____________________________ Smiley T-Shirts and other Geeky fun stuff, Smileys and phpbb Smiley paks. (in reply to caz)


dpf Posts: 7121 Joined: 11/12/2003 From: India-napolis Status: offline	RE: help required for making a site :S - 10/27/2005 21:04:08 quote: To get back to the original question...sigh you used to be fun. _____________________________ Dan (in reply to caz)


Taz Posts: 2827 Joined: 7/6/2004 From: U.K (Formerly outer space.) Status: offline	RE: help required for making a site :S - 10/27/2005 21:09:11 quote: ORIGINAL: dpf quote: To get back to the original question...sigh you used to be fun. _____________________________ Smiley T-Shirts and other Geeky fun stuff, Smileys and phpbb Smiley paks. (in reply to dpf)


Donkey Posts: 3869 Joined: 11/13/2001 From: Blackfield United Kingdom Status: offline	RE: help required for making a site :S - 10/27/2005 21:40:38 quote: quote: To get back to the original question...sigh you used to be fun. I think she still is fun. _____________________________ I have a higher and grander standard of principle than George Washington. He could not lie; I can, but I won't. Samuel Clemens (in reply to dpf)


Nescesito Posts: 2 Joined: 10/27/2005 Status: offline	RE: help required for making a site :S - 10/27/2005 21:54:36 Thank you all very much for the comments, both on topic and off . Thank you for the swift replies to a simple first poster's request; I'll ask the head honcho for an extension as soon as I can. (in reply to Donkey)


Taz Posts: 2827 Joined: 7/6/2004 From: U.K (Formerly outer space.) Status: offline	RE: help required for making a site :S - 10/27/2005 21:56:16 Good results cannot be rushed, it's a fact in Web Design and coding. Hope the boss takes it well. (: _____________________________ Smiley T-Shirts and other Geeky fun stuff, Smileys and phpbb Smiley paks. (in reply to Nescesito)


Nicole Posts: 2830 Joined: 9/15/2004 From: Nambucca / Kempsey, Australia Status: offline	RE: help required for making a site :S - 10/27/2005 22:59:48 Good luck Nescesito! Maybe you could ask your boss, or if you know the answer just tell us:: 1. If the toilet blocks up at work, does your boss get one of the staff to fix it, or do they call for a plumber? 2. If they have a car accident do they bang the dings back into shape themselves, or do they call a panel beater? 3. If they get injured in that car accident, do they go to a hospital or call a doctor? Or do they sew themselves up and hope that'll be allright? It's great to see that you knew about FrontPage to go and buy it, and the book, but like the others have said it takes a bit more than that. It actually takes years to develop the skills required to create a nice looking, functional website. Not to mention a bit of creative flair and a lot of hard work spending very long days and nights to nut out idiocyncracies (sp?) between the different browsers, screen resolutions, coding and accessibility standards the list goes on..... Does your boss value their business? Do they realise the negative consequences of a poorly produced, probably non-functional website can have on their business? Please let us know how you go. Nicole _____________________________ (in reply to Taz)


dpf Posts: 7121 Joined: 11/12/2003 From: India-napolis Status: offline	RE: help required for making a site :S - 10/28/2005 5:23:51 quote: I think she still is fun. sychophant ... _____________________________ Dan (in reply to Donkey)


jaybee Posts: 14152 Joined: 10/7/2003 From: Berkshire, UK Status: offline	RE: help required for making a site :S - 10/28/2005 5:30:57 Please ignore the more lunatic fringe on here Nescesito. What you have to realise is you are being asked to do the impossible. As a pro I'd have trouble completing a site by Monday. If it was a small site, very basic then maybe I could do it if I worked all weekend. You could take the approach of buying a template which would speed things up but unless you know the basics of Frontpage you're just going to get that in a mess as well. With that deadline you'll be doing it in a panic and nothing is going to sink in. Nicole makes a valid point above but fact is, you can do it yourself but not in that short space of time. As a newbie, to turn out something even halfway decent I would reckon you're looking at, at the very least, 2 months work. _____________________________ If it ain't broke..... fix it until it is. GAWDS Now where did I put that Doctype? (in reply to Nicole)


dpf Posts: 7121 Joined: 11/12/2003 From: India-napolis Status: offline	RE: help required for making a site :S - 10/28/2005 5:33:50 quote: at the very least, 2 months work. and that is full time! unless you earn $500 or so month, you could certainly get a pro for less than your salary for a basic site. _____________________________ Dan (in reply to jaybee)


Donkey Posts: 3869 Joined: 11/13/2001 From: Blackfield United Kingdom Status: offline	RE: help required for making a site :S - 10/28/2005 6:00:23 quote: quote: I think she still is fun. sychophant ...:) I don't know the meaning of the word. Is it a rude one you learnt from Rachel? _____________________________ I have a higher and grander standard of principle than George Washington. He could not lie; I can, but I won't. Samuel Clemens (in reply to dpf)


jaybee Posts: 14152 Joined: 10/7/2003 From: Berkshire, UK Status: offline	RE: help required for making a site :S - 10/28/2005 6:08:34 Can we keep this thread on topic please. _____________________________ If it ain't broke..... fix it until it is. GAWDS Now where did I put that Doctype? (in reply to Donkey)


womble Posts: 5526 Joined: 3/14/2005 From: Living on the edge Status: offline	RE: help required for making a site :S - 10/28/2005 6:09:59 quote: I don't know the meaning of the word. Is it a rude one you learnt from Rachel?:) _____________________________ ~~ "A cruel god ain't no god at all" ~~ (in reply to Donkey)