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david19

 

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.shtml in FP - please help - 8/27/2001 15:18:00   
does anyone know how to save a web page as .shtml using frontpage 98?

when i try to name a file "index.shtml" in the "file name:" box it still adds the ".htm" on to the end because in the "save as type:" box there are three options and there isn't an "all files" option.

so the outcome is a file named "index.shtml.htm"

please reply,

thanks,

dave

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RE: .shtml in FP - please help - 8/28/2001 20:07:00   
Have you tried Tools > Options > Configure Editors?

I'm thinking maybe FP isn't setup to recognize .shtml files by default.


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RE: .shtml in FP - please help - 8/28/2001 17:03:00   
thanks for replying, i've tried what you said but there aren't any options to change that will help me in the tools > options > menu.

i'm sure i can't be the only one to want to save files as .shtml in FP98 but no one knows the answer.

please reply with any ideas,

dave


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Thomas Brunt

 

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RE: .shtml in FP - please help - 8/29/2001 20:51:00   
I recall that there's a way to get to the configure editors dialog on FP98, but it's been a long time since I've seen that interface.

Keep looking. That option is there in FP Explorer somewhere.


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RE: .shtml in FP - please help - 8/29/2001 15:48:00   
i've checked in frontpage explorer and i went to tools > options > configure editors and found that shtml and shtm were already there. i checked there settings and everythig should be working fine.

when i open frontpage editor though and try to select .shtml or .shtm from the "save as type" dialogue box they aren't there (there are only 3 types there) so i can't save as .shtml.

i tried renaming the file as with .shtml but then i had to select a program to open it with (i chose interent explorer) but the INCLUDE tag which i want to use in the code still doesn't work.

any ideas on how to get .shtml as one of the options in the "save as type" dialogue box in frontpage editor?

thanks,

dave

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RE: .shtml in FP - please help - 8/30/2001 13:35:00   
You could always rename the files to .shtml in Explorer after the fact. No?

It should give you an alert box letting you know that you might be screwing up the file, but that file extension wouldn't hurt.


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RE: .shtml in FP - please help - 8/30/2001 17:24:00   
Thanks for your help and I've tried it but it just thinks that the .sthml is part of the name not the extension.

This is probably annoying you now so I apologise if I seem thick but I've spent ages looking for a way and looking on the net for the answer.

Maybe I could ask someone from Microsoft or email then? I know that sounds kind of silly but I really am running out of ideas.

Any ideas anyone?

Thanks again,

Dave


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RE: .shtml in FP - please help - 8/30/2001 19:44:00   
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Originally posted by david19:
Thanks for your help and I've tried it but it just thinks that the .sthml is part of the name not the extension.

This is probably annoying you now so I apologise if I seem thick but I've spent ages looking for a way and looking on the net for the answer.

Maybe I could ask someone from Microsoft or email then? I know that sounds kind of silly but I really am running out of ideas.

Any ideas anyone?


Probably not the one you want to hear, but IMHO the best idea would be to get rid og FP98 & get FP2002, or a tleast 200

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RE: .shtml in FP - please help - 8/30/2001 20:08:00   
Just as a test.
right click on the file in question, open with notepad, save as "file.shtml" use the quotes. You will probably have to save it to a floder then import it back in. Not sure if this will work but....

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RE: .shtml in FP - please help - 8/31/2001 13:32:00   
In FP Explorer, click once on the file name so it turns blue.
Press "F2"

Not type the correct file extension.

Yes?

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RE: .shtml in FP - please help - 8/31/2001 14:26:00   
Thanks for all your help.

Gil - Unfortunately I'm not in the position to purchase a newer version.

Spooky - I've tried it but it just thinks that the .shtml is part of the name not the extension.

Davebukouricz - Great idea, I've done that but Windows Explorer didn't recognise the file type when I double clicked on it and I had to select a default program to open it with.

So any ideas regarding Davebukouricz comments.

Here is an example and a short explanation: http://www.jokearena.co.uk/trial.shtml

Thanks,

Dave

P.S. Should the icon for .shtml be different from .html in Windows Explorer?


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RE: .shtml in FP - please help - 8/31/2001 14:59:00   
It seems to me you should be able to open Notepad locally, then browse to the file on your hard drive and open it. (Don't try to open it in Explorer by double clicking on it.) Save As | Save As Type (All Files) and type index.shtml into the file name box.

Import into your web and as long as server side includes are supported by your host, it should work. I'm not using FP98, but when I did I don't remember having a problem.

ginnie


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RE: .shtml in FP - please help - 8/31/2001 15:28:00   
How about :

windows explorer > tools > folder options > view > Uncheck "Hide file extensions for know file types"


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RE: .shtml in FP - please help - 8/31/2001 18:19:00   
Thanks Ginnie and Spooky. I'm able to save files as .shtml, hurray!

Can anyone have a look at my code and tell me if it should work?

http://www.jokearena.co.uk/trial.shtml

Much appreciated.

Do .shtml have different icons in Windows Explorer?

Thanks so much for all you help everyone

Dave


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RE: .shtml in FP - please help - 9/1/2001 20:32:00   
Dave,

It looks to me like ssi's are not supported by your host. You might want to check with them to make sure they are.

The file is in the same directory, right? Even if it wasn't, it should generate an error like: "An error occurred while processing this directive" . . . if ssi is enabled on the server.

ginnie


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RE: .shtml in FP - please help - 9/1/2001 20:11:00   
I'll check with my host to see if SSI is supported.

Both files are in the same directory and I guess my code is right then?

Does anyone know if .shtml files should have different icons in Windows Explorer?

Thanks to all of you

Dave


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RE: .shtml in FP - please help - 9/1/2001 20:45:00   
Dave,

Your code looks good to me.

In Windows Explorer, my .shtml files have what I guess is the Windows icon, (no associated program), although when I double-click they open up in Dreamweaver. I am able to open and edit in FrontPage though.

ginnie


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RE: .shtml in FP - please help - 9/1/2001 20:57:00   
Ginnie,

Windows Explorer didn't recognise the file type when I double clicked on it and I had to select a default program to open it with. I selected IE and the little icon looks like a blank A4 sheet with the standard 'e' symbol in the middle.

Thanks for your help,

Dave


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RE: .shtml in FP - please help - 9/1/2001 23:33:00   
Dave,

.shtml files can only run on a server, so you don't want to set them up to open in I.E.. You'll want to have them open in a program that can edit them such as Notepad, FrontPage, Dreamweaver, etc.

I'm outta here ... have a great weekend!

ginnie


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RE: .shtml in FP - please help - 9/2/2001 17:28:00   
Text pad! www.textpad.com

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