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FrogMan

 

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Avery 4013 Label Printing - 11/9/2005 14:07:11   
First, thanks to Spooky for adding this forum. I come here periodically when having problems or questions on FrontPage, but now I will be back more often with hthis forum.

Thanks

On to the question for today.

Any one figure out why when printing Avery 4013 (12 up) labels to an OKI ML590 printer using Word 2000 mail merge, that the labels print 12, then skip two, print 12, skip two, and so on?

Maybe this is not the best location to ask, but let's see what we get.

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RE: Avery 4013 Label Printing - 11/10/2005 4:17:30   
Check you have the latest printer driver and check the setup for those labels in Word, see if for some reason they're missing the margin.

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Andy from Somerset

 

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RE: Avery 4013 Label Printing - 11/10/2005 9:00:26   
Letter size paper instead of A4?

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RE: Avery 4013 Label Printing - 11/10/2005 18:32:55   
Jaybee,
Thank you for the post.

But, I have the latest drivers. I have been messing around with it again today. I took and fired up the old Windows 98SE machine. Launched Word '97, used the mail merge and selected mailing labels. Created the output by using a database of addresses. Checked the details for the labels (Avery 4013). Tried a test print and it it printed fine, no skipped labels.

So, then I hooked the printer back up to the W2K Pro machine, went into Word '97 and created the exact same on the Windows 98 machine. Next I tried a print to the Okidata ML590 printer with the 4013 labels loaded.

Sure enough, it skipped two labels.

Next, I created a PDF from the same Word '97 for the output. I reviewed it, and it looked good. So, I sent it to the printer and it worked. No skipped labels.

So, I think I have isolated it to something in Word or a combination of Word and Windows 2000 pro. I think more than likely it is to do with something W2K Pro adds, just a gut feeling.

I have been all over the place trying to resolve this. An associate asked me to send him the output from the printer to a file on both the Win98 unit and one from the W2K unit. He said he will try to use 'debug' to see the difference.

Still, I am not so sure this will tell the story, or fix.

Still needing help.

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FrogMan

 

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RE: Avery 4013 Label Printing - 11/10/2005 18:39:47   
Andy,

Thanks for your reply

Yes it is set for letter size. I have even gone in and double checked to make sure that when the merge selection for the Avery 4013 labels is ready and I go to print, the properties show that the out labels are 4.5" wide and the length of label page is 12". This is absolutely correct for the labels. I tried changing to the 4010 labels (one up versus 12 up) and that created a problem in that when I sent the print out to the printer, the printer form feeds an entire box of labels (of course I stopped it about the fourth page).

I have also tried setting the printer page length to 12" to no avail.

I wish I had access to a good debug GUI program. The DOS debug is cryptic at best and I am not a programmer. If I could just look at the raw data being sent from Word on the W2K Pro machine, maybe I could find something.

Any suggestions would really be appreciated.

Thanks

Rick

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Larry M.

 

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RE: Avery 4013 Label Printing - 11/10/2005 20:49:36   
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Any suggestions would really be appreciated


Rick,

I gave up on Word with Avery Lite years ago and parted with a few bucks for Avery Design Pro. Happy ever since. BTW, ADP includes a data base function which works slick as a whistle.

Also, you can print directly from the Avery Web Site at:
http://www.avery.com/us/print/index.html?wtloc=sc

Just took a quick pass through the above; most label formats seem to be offered.

Hope this helps:)

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FrogMan

 

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RE: Avery 4013 Label Printing - 11/11/2005 12:20:40   
Larry,

Thanks for the info. I downloaded the Limited edition a few days ago, but it does not offer the 4013 labels. Cost wise, I think this is a good route to go, but first I need to determine if the 'full' version offers the 4013 labels.

Reason I need to stay with the 4013 labels is we have boxes and boxes of them. We also have a slick labeling machine that you place up to 1000 envelopes in it, feed the 4013 labels into it, turn it on and in a few minutes all the envelopes are labeled. Works very nicely.

I guess I better give Avery a call.

Still would like to find out what is going on with the Word '97 on Windows 98SE and Word '97 on W2KPro. Why the labels skip two, when the only difference is the OS.

I Refuse to pay Microsoft on this.

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FrogMan

 

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RE: Avery 4013 Label Printing - 11/11/2005 12:55:39   
Larry,

Went out and tried out the Avery product and found that it has the 4013 labels in it if you choose the design from scratch option and not the wizard.

Now the problem is, most of the information (addresses) we print labels for are either in a word doc or an access database. neither of which the avery product can import. They only show an import feature for dBase III.

I'll keep on it though.

Thanks

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RE: Avery 4013 Label Printing - 4/15/2008 15:00:54   
FrogMan, have you had any resolution to this problem? I have stumbled on this same problem myself and can't for the life of me find a fix. We have our databases in Excel and require a mail merge. Word perfect is throwing off the print a fraction of an inch when sent to the printer, so that doesn't help me. Let me know, thanks.

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RE: Avery 4013 Label Printing - 5/12/2008 5:20:09   
Hi there,

I never had much look when I use to try and print my own labels, I was using mail merge software in word but I could never get the printer to print onto sheets of labels for some reason. I actually gave up printing my own labels as found a company in the midlands that could implement multiple databases onto their thermal printing machine, ie would take my database and create unique thermal labels based on my data. Saved me a lot of messing around really, and still allowed me to do one off labels for each customer for example.

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jaybee

 

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RE: Avery 4013 Label Printing - 5/12/2008 6:33:08   
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ORIGINAL: nikeboy72

FrogMan, have you had any resolution to this problem? I have stumbled on this same problem myself and can't for the life of me find a fix. We have our databases in Excel and require a mail merge. Word perfect is throwing off the print a fraction of an inch when sent to the printer, so that doesn't help me. Let me know, thanks.
I haven't used WP in years but in Word if you use the free download from Avery, you can set the label number and then customise the print set up to adjust the fraction you're out. It's fiddly so when you get it right, remember to save it with your custom name for next time.


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RE: Avery 4013 Label Printing - 5/12/2008 6:33:36   
I have always found Avery templates to be a complete waste of time. You end up wasting more labels than you print.

Just make your own template in word using tables for layout. Measure a sheet to get the margins and label sizes, then adjust the page margins and row and column sizes to suit. Then save as a word template.

It is far easier in the long run.

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jaybee

 

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RE: Avery 4013 Label Printing - 5/12/2008 6:34:51   
I've done it both ways, I find it faster to use the avery template and tweak it.

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