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olbaronen

 

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--WEBBOT-SELF-- damn... what is this? - 11/10/2005 20:21:15   
Hello! This is my first post at fpwm.com...
I read some of the posts here, and I thought there was alot to learn here, so I joined myself.

My first, and certainly not my last question is:

I'm making my first homepage these days at home.. My Homepage: www.home.no/bci
It's a crappy page, but i'm working on it!
I use ftp uploading to the server.

Well! I made this form: www.home.no/bci.fight.htm but as you can see, when you click on send, it doesn't work!
This is what i get displayed: The requested URL /bci/--WEBBOT-SELF-- was not found on this server.

It's this damn webbot thing that is bothering me. I don't even know what it is.
I want the results to be sendt to my e-mail adress which is olbaronen@hotmail.com.
I may have many things wrong while making the form, but I don't know what :(

Please tell me... What can I do about this?
(What do I have to do to get the results sendt to me by e-mail?)

I'm desperate!:) Please help me..

Thanks! olbaronen
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RE: --WEBBOT-SELF-- damn... what is this? - 11/10/2005 22:16:52   
Hi olbaronen,

Welcome to OutFront

Can't get your link to come up. Off hand, the error sounds like the site either doesn't have the extensions installed or they have become corrupt.

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Kitka

 

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RE: --WEBBOT-SELF-- damn... what is this? - 11/10/2005 22:45:59   
Hi øyvind,

According to this site, http://www.dnswiz.com/fptype.htm, your server does not have FrontPage extensions installed.

Additionally, if you wish to use any of the FrontPage "webbots" you need not only FrontPage extensions on the server, but to "publish" from your computer using FP. If the FP extensions are installed, using FTP to upload files corrupts them, plus all the hidden files that are essential for the Webbots to function correctly are not transferred.

Also, the FP form is very insecure. because it reveals your email address in the html code, which can then be collected by spam bots.

I'd recommend you find a secure php or perl form rather than use the FrontPage one. Then you won't need to worry about FrontPage extensions or changing to publishing rather than using ftp.

There is a PHP form wizard here which might suit:
http://www.thesitewizard.com/wizards/feedbackform.shtml

It is a feedback form, but it can easily be adapted to any purpose if you understand how to build an html form.

or a free PHP form here:
http://www.tectite.com/formmailpage.php

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olbaronen

 

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RE: --WEBBOT-SELF-- damn... what is this? - 11/11/2005 9:01:22   
Thank you both for replies!
I've been using FP for a little time, and I've just started to learn how to use it.
Is there any way to make this form work by using FP?
Btw.. How do I enable/install the extentions?

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womble

 

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RE: --WEBBOT-SELF-- damn... what is this? - 11/11/2005 10:40:09   
If your hosts offer FP extensions, either check out your control panel on the server (if you have access to it), you should find an option to enable the extensions, or ask your host to enable the extensions. Once you have the extensions installed and you publish rather than ftp, the form should work.

As Kitka says though, FP forms aren't very secure. You could also check out somewhere like Hotscripts for form scripts.

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AMysticWeb

 

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RE: --WEBBOT-SELF-- damn... what is this? - 11/11/2005 12:16:16   
The following is what you have for your file path:
C:\Documents and Settings\Øyvind Fremmergård\My Documents\_private\form_results.csv

It is currently going to your hard drive.

It should be: _private\form_results.csv

Also, I overlooked this in your first post. You mentioned using FTP. The FrontPage form is one of the components requiring use of the built in "Publish Web" function to http location.

So, using FTP is enough to disable the form and corrupt the extensions.

If the extensions are available and reinstalled, set your email and fix the file path in Form Properties.

If the host doesn't offer the extensions, they may offer a form handler script you could use.

No extensions, No script option, then if your site is compatible with PHP, you may need the script Kitka gave you a link for.

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olbaronen

 

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RE: --WEBBOT-SELF-- damn... what is this? - 11/11/2005 20:41:44   
Hell! I just found out that the server I'm running my homepage on do not allow FP extentions... (www.home.no)

Do anyone know a server which allows FP ext.?
(It has to be free membership)

And by the way.. (I'm a beginner so please don't laugh)
How do use the "Publish Web" thing?

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Kitka

 

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RE: --WEBBOT-SELF-- damn... what is this? - 11/11/2005 20:47:40   
Rather than change server and have to deal with finicky FP extensions to install a highly insecure form ... wouldn't it be much easier and better to simply grab a free script that is secure? :)

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olbaronen

 

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RE: --WEBBOT-SELF-- damn... what is this? - 11/11/2005 20:55:54   
I really don't know anything about this..
All I want to do is to make a form people can fill in and send the "results" to my e-mail adress...

Is this so difficult to do?

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coreybryant

 

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RE: --WEBBOT-SELF-- damn... what is this? - 11/14/2005 19:58:11   
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ORIGINAL: olbaronen

I'm making my first homepage these days at home.. My Homepage: www.home.no/bci
It's a crappy page, but i'm working on it!
I use ftp uploading to the server.

FTP will also corrupt your FP server extensions and FP forms need to be published via Frontpage to work properly. Using FTP - it will not work.

If your hosting company does not support FP extensions, contact them and ask them what form handlers they do support. Most will install one on your server for free

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