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harrydom

 

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Table Borders Only Blue - 11/20/2005 2:57:58   
Help!

The only table border choice I have is bright blue, The light and dark border options are greyed out.

I have set my authoring page options to:
Frontpage & Sharepoint: Complete
Browsers: IE Only
Browser Versions: 5.0/6.0 and later
Schema: IE 5.0

What am I doing wrong?
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RE: Table Borders Only Blue - 11/20/2005 3:07:36   
quote:

What am I doing wrong?


Coding exclusively for M$ :) :)

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d a v e

 

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RE: Table Borders Only Blue - 11/20/2005 12:34:11   
try
<table style="border: 1px solid red;"


where you can replace 'red' with the colour of your choice

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Larry M.

 

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RE: Table Borders Only Blue - 11/20/2005 13:14:42   
To expand on Kitka's M$:) comment:

Set >>Tools >> Page Options >> Authoring >> Browsers:Custom.

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RE: Table Borders Only Blue - 11/20/2005 13:50:45   
Good catch Larry. harry, what Larry has suggested allows you to use features that are supported by other bowsers and doesn't limit you to only those supported by IE.

From the FP help file,
quote:

Browsers Specifies the Web browser you want to support and turns off features that are not supported by that browser. To design Web pages for a specific browser, click the name of the browser in the Browsers list.



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RE: Table Borders Only Blue - 11/20/2005 20:08:42   
Changing the browser setting to "custom" doesn't seem to change anything.

I just found that I can change the table border color by using the Style dropdown menu, instead of the main Table Properties menu.

However, the light and dark border functions on the main Table Properties menu are still grayed out.

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RE: Table Borders Only Blue - 11/20/2005 20:21:24   
They should stay greyed out, when Browsers: "Custom" is chosen.

It is a feature which is Internet Explorer specific, won't work in other browsers, so you wouldn't want to use it.

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RE: Table Borders Only Blue - 11/20/2005 20:34:34   
A question: When you right click on your table and chose "Table Properties" do you get a box which contains three sections: Layout, Borders & Background?

In the middle one there should be four fields: Size, Color, Light border, Dark Border.

The box marked "Color" should have a dropdown button. If you click that, you should be able to change the border color to whatever you like.

If you don't have that box, what is there instead?

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RE: Table Borders Only Blue - 11/20/2005 20:43:34   
I do have a box marked color, but the word 'color' is grayed out. The dropdown menu is non-functinal.

Also the words 'light border' and 'dark border' are also greyed out.

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RE: Table Borders Only Blue - 11/20/2005 20:53:04   
What happens when you select the table, either with your mouse or by going to menu bar:

Table >> Select >> Table

... then go to:

Format >> Borders and Shading

Is the color box there also greyed out?

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harrydom

 

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RE: Table Borders Only Blue - 11/20/2005 21:00:31   
When I select table, and then go to Format > Borders & Shading, the color box work correctly. It is not grayed out.

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RE: Table Borders Only Blue - 11/20/2005 21:03:46   
Correction: when I select Table and then go to borders & shading, the color selection appears to work correctly.

However, no matter what border color I select, the actual table border is bright blue.

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RE: Table Borders Only Blue - 11/20/2005 21:11:07   
Do you have this page published so we could have a look at the code and see if there is something going on behind the scenes in the html?

A URL might be helpful.

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RE: Table Borders Only Blue - 11/21/2005 0:37:13   
My site is www.winninginvesting.com

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RE: Table Borders Only Blue - 11/21/2005 3:39:31   
Where can I find the table with the blue border?

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RE: Table Borders Only Blue - 11/21/2005 11:40:18   
Here's the test page:

www.winninginvesting.com/temp.htm

I just upgraded to FP 2003 but I had similar problems with FP 2000. This is the first time that I've actually published a table while trying to troubleshoot the problem.

To my surprise, the table on that page has a green border, which is what I selected (using select table > format > borders and shading)

However, when viewed in FP Design mode, the border is bright blue.

When viewed in Preview mode, the border is gray.

HD

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RE: Table Borders Only Blue - 11/21/2005 16:13:53   
Well here is the problem, but I'm not sure what the solution is:

<table border="3" width="675" style="border-style: solid" bordercolor="#008000" bordercolordark="#0000FF" bordercolorlight="#0000FF">


In Firefox I see a table with a 3px green border (because it and other browsers don't understand the proprietary M$ code) ... in IE I see a table with 3px border but the cells have a bright blue border, which is being governed by the light and dark code.

What we need to find out now is how the light/dark code is getting in there as you said the control for it is greyed out.

I'm wondering if it is being governed by the theme you are using? Yet I haven't seen a theme that sets border colour.

And it is completely inexplicable that what you see in Preview is not what you see when published.

When you installed FP2003, did you install on top of FP2000, or did you uninstall it first?

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harrydom

 

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RE: Table Borders Only Blue - 11/21/2005 16:24:51   
quote:

When you installed FP2003, did you install on top of FP2000, or did you uninstall it first?


I did not uninstall FP 2000, but the FP 2003 installer appeared to uninstall FP 2000 before it installed FP 2003.

I also had this problem with FP 2000, so it may have something to do with my theme. I am using a theme called "Arcs-2"

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RE: Table Borders Only Blue - 11/21/2005 16:35:33   
Newsflash!

I changed the theme on my test page to "no theme" and that fixed the problem for that page.

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RE: Table Borders Only Blue - 11/21/2005 18:22:13   
I am absolutely convinced that the table border control resides in the Theme used.
I also use a Theme but despite all my efforts to change the borders to any color but light grey, saved the web pages and publish them with FP2002, when I come back for maintenance, the good ol' table has a light gray border.
My problem is that I do not see where one can change the table border colors in a Theme in use.
Any help will be appreciated.

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