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Max85 Posts: 7 Joined: 11/26/2005 Status: offline	mp3 codecs - 11/26/2005 12:11:58 Now then, this might seem like a silly question but.. Having downloaded a particular music file, I find that instead of the usual 128 or 192kb/sec, this one plays at 32kb/sec, and of course, no sound comes out... I have downloaded about a million new codecs (OK, slight exaggeration there) and countless players (Real, iMesh,DivX, Winamp etc) but none seems to be able to play these files. Does anyone know what they are and what the problem might be?


Donkey Posts: 3888 Joined: 11/13/2001 From: Blackfield United Kingdom Status: offline	RE: mp3 codecs - 11/26/2005 12:33:36 quote: plays at 32kb/sec, and of course, no sound comes out... If as I suspect you have been using a dodgy p2p service it is most likely a dummy blank file put up by that vile organisation the RIAA to discourage illegal downloads. They are nearly all 32kbs; some are blank, some have snatches of music in the middle of the silent file, others have a voice saying "you're screwed" and the sound of a toilet flushing. The best advice is to ignore 32kbs files or any file that appears to download too fast. _____________________________ I have a higher and grander standard of principle than George Washington. He could not lie; I can, but I won't. Samuel Clemens (in reply to Max85)


Max85 Posts: 7 Joined: 11/26/2005 Status: offline	RE: mp3 codecs - 11/26/2005 12:45:07 Thanks for the reply there - I have not heard of the RIAA coming up with an idea like that. Yes, you're right, it is a p2p sharing service (Kazaa), and I know opinion differs on these things, but I have been using the same provider since the death of Napster (and I share mine too) and it is only recently that this has started to happen. So the RIAA is cunning enough to set up lots and lots of different dummy users just to confound us then? Thats wicked....... Has anybody else had the same problem? (in reply to Max85)


Taz Posts: 2860 Joined: 7/6/2004 From: U.K (Formerly outer space.) Status: offline	RE: mp3 codecs - 11/26/2005 14:10:17 It's more the artists/artists companies that do it. As soon as a new track by one of their bands comes out they flood P2P networks with bogus files in an attempt to make it difficult to get the file you are actually after. Why bother with a track at 32kbs anyhoo, the quality would be pretty naff that low. I have a 192kbs threshold, anything less than that and I wouldn't get out of bed to click download. _____________________________ Smiley T-Shirts and other Geeky fun stuff, Smileys and phpbb Smiley paks. (in reply to Max85)


Max85 Posts: 7 Joined: 11/26/2005 Status: offline	RE: mp3 codecs - 11/26/2005 17:39:34 True; I wouldnt bother downloading anything at less than 128, but the comments attached to many of these files say that they are of 128 quality and better, only to find that when downloaded they play at 32kb, and a file which was typically 3-4 meg in size has a playing time of about 15 minutes. Does this fit the dummy file scenario? (in reply to Max85)


Max85 Posts: 7 Joined: 11/26/2005 Status: offline	RE: mp3 codecs - 11/26/2005 17:43:27 Another interesting point; whilst I appreciate that new songs may be 'protected' in this way (and I have seen some new stuff), the file I was downloading is a 20 year old Steve Winwood song........cant find a kosher version anywhere..... (in reply to Max85)


BobbyDouglas Posts: 5469 Joined: 5/15/2003 From: Arizona Status: offline	RE: mp3 codecs - 11/26/2005 17:57:02 You're just using this to illegally download songs? _____________________________ Arizona Web Design - Mr Bobs Web Design in Arizona The Arizona Web Hosting Challenge (in reply to Max85)


Max85 Posts: 7 Joined: 11/26/2005 Status: offline	RE: mp3 codecs - 11/26/2005 18:04:09 As I said, I know opinion differs on these things, and I actually pay a subscription fee, but the question is simply this: Is there an mp3 format that I do not know about or is there another reason why this happens? It is a technical enquiry, thats all. The morals are not in question here. (in reply to BobbyDouglas)


Taz Posts: 2860 Joined: 7/6/2004 From: U.K (Formerly outer space.) Status: offline	RE: mp3 codecs - 11/26/2005 18:10:16 quote: ORIGINAL: Max85 True; I wouldnt bother downloading anything at less than 128, but the comments attached to many of these files say that they are of 128 quality and better, only to find that when downloaded they play at 32kb, and a file which was typically 3-4 meg in size has a playing time of about 15 minutes. Does this fit the dummy file scenario? IF it sounds too good to be true.... It often is. Try a different source, Kazaa is one of the worst P2P's anyhoo. _____________________________ Smiley T-Shirts and other Geeky fun stuff, Smileys and phpbb Smiley paks. (in reply to Max85)


jaybee Posts: 14175 Joined: 10/7/2003 From: Berkshire, UK Status: offline	RE: mp3 codecs - 11/27/2005 9:03:56 quote: It is a technical enquiry, thats all. The morals are not in question here. Unfortunately, morals are in question here. Outfront is a reputable webmaster forum and we're not about to go damaging that reputation by handing out info on how to get round problems with illegal downloads. If you need assistance with problems with web site design then we're here for you. _____________________________ If it ain't broke..... fix it until it is. GAWDS Now where did I put that Doctype? (in reply to Taz)


Max85 Posts: 7 Joined: 11/26/2005 Status: offline	RE: mp3 codecs - 11/27/2005 9:56:57 Fair enough. Point taken and understood. Would you be able to explain what makes the difference between legal and illegal downloads? As I said earlier, I pay a subscription fee for mine and was under the impression that this made the difference. This is not so? (in reply to jaybee)


Giomanach Posts: 6112 Joined: 11/19/2003 From: England Status: offline	RE: mp3 codecs - 11/27/2005 10:39:24 Kazaa brings the files to you from other users of the program, regardless of whether or not they pay the subscription fee. The sources of the files are not legit, therefore making the file illegal. Places like iTunes have paid for the right to distribute the songs, and you pay per track that you download. Unlike Kazaa where you pay for te program, NOT the files. Kazaa is a fatal legality _____________________________ (in reply to Max85)


Max85 Posts: 7 Joined: 11/26/2005 Status: offline	RE: mp3 codecs - 11/27/2005 10:44:10 Becoming clearer now.... Dont understand the expression 'fatal legality', though... (in reply to Giomanach)


dpf Posts: 7123 Joined: 11/12/2003 From: India-napolis Status: offline	RE: mp3 codecs - 11/27/2005 11:19:11 quote: The sources of the files are not legit, therefore making the file illegal. to clarify - they may well have purchased and therefore own the song legit but they don ot have to right to make it available for others to copy - or they may have obtrained their copy that way. pirated music, software, movies all the same - the creator or owner is entitled to sell it and the sale limits the purchaser to "fair use" incluidng making back up copy for own use - not sharing. _____________________________ Dan (in reply to Giomanach)


Kitka Posts: 2515 Joined: 1/31/2002 From: Australia Status: offline	RE: mp3 codecs - 11/27/2005 18:11:59 quote: I have downloaded about a million new codecs (OK, slight exaggeration there) and countless players (Real, iMesh,DivX, Winamp etc) but none seems to be able to play these files. Does anyone know what they are and what the problem might be? /wonders why you are asking a question like this in a forum that specialises in all things to do with web design?? Wouldn't a specialised music/mp3/download forum be far better equipped to handle your enquiry? _____________________________ Kitka It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. (in reply to Max85)