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evilevets -> Please critque! (12/5/2005 9:57:58)

Hi There,

A new website I just made for a local Pilates -etc, Studio. www.chibalancecenter.com

Any comments or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

-Steve



golfer -> RE: Please critque! (12/5/2005 12:02:16)

Hi Steve

Nice clear bright and inviting site.

I notice that the site does not resize for smaller screens and therefore a horizontal sidebar will come into operation. I think you need to have a look at this.

Also there is a little white square bottom left for some reason. (viewing in FF).

Your pages are showing a some errors and warnings. Also there is no DOCTYPE declaration. You may wish to tidy this up.

Regards



Tailslide -> RE: Please critque! (12/5/2005 13:12:02)

Also the bullet images don't line up with the list items in Firefox.



dpf -> RE: Please critque! (12/5/2005 13:14:48)

for a business site, I think the logo is amateurish.



evilevets -> RE: Please critque! (12/5/2005 13:50:36)

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ORIGINAL: golfer

I notice that the site does not resize for smaller screens and therefore a horizontal sidebar will come into operation. I think you need to have a look at this.



I know, I don't know why that always happens to me! Any ideas on how to fix that?


quote:

ORIGINAL: golfer
Also there is a little white square bottom left for some reason. (viewing in FF).




Yeah, I noticed that too. I don't know how to get rid of that. Seems none of my sites look right in FF! Any ideas on fixing that would be appreciated too!


-Steve




womble -> RE: Please critque! (12/5/2005 15:01:21)

Setting your page and table widths in % rather than pixels usually cures the scrollbar problem.

Using a doctype and running your site through the W3Cs validator will pick up any errors in your code (HTML Tidy's showing 4 errors and 172 warnings) and putting any errors right often clears up minor glitches. The W3C site itself is showing 146 errors for your home page - it's not as bad as it sounds though. Often fixing one error will correct a whole host of others as well.

In general sites which don't use completely valid code do tend to show up strangely in FF as it's one of the more standards compliant browsers - fixing those errors often clears things up.



evilevets -> RE: Please critque! (12/5/2005 15:05:56)


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ORIGINAL: Tailslide

Also the bullet images don't line up with the list items in Firefox.


Yeah, another FF issue I noticed. Are there issues with Frontpage sites viewed using FF, or am I just not doing something right?


Thanks,
-Steve



Darkside -> RE: Please critque! (12/5/2005 16:11:50)

If you don't have any Firefox extensions get this one it will tell you where your code is wrong well most of it any way Html Validator

Or use W3C validator to help
They will tell you what might be messing thing up for you



Kitka -> RE: Please critque! (12/5/2005 16:59:07)

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Seems none of my sites look right in FF! Any ideas on fixing that would be appreciated too!


For future reference this axiom is worth remembering and sticking to:

Design for Firefox, Check in Opera and then Fix for Internet Explorer.


Firefox is the most standards compliant of them all, so a site that works in FF will normally work in other browsers.

The banner (Why Not Try Pilates) is rough and amateurish, and looks like poor Word art.

Also, your code is bulked out and bloated by proprietary Word coding. That could be causing problems in FF too.

If you need to paste text from Word, always paste it to Notepad first, then from Notepad to FrontPage. That strips all the junk formatting.

You should consider using a different gallery to the FP one, because it deliberately adds thick grey borders in non-IE browsers.



evilevets -> RE: Please critque! (12/5/2005 22:44:10)


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ORIGINAL: Kitka

The banner (Why Not Try Pilates) is rough and amateurish, and looks like poor Word art.




I agree with you on that. It is in fact Word Art.

Any suggestions on how I can improve that without the use of Word Art?


Thanks,

-Steve



evilevets -> RE: Please critque! (12/5/2005 23:03:22)

I added a DOCTYPE. Can anyone tell me if I used the correct one?


Thanks
-Steve



womble -> RE: Please critque! (12/6/2005 4:50:29)

I can't see a doctype in there. It needs to be the first thing on the page, before anything else. This article explains more about doctypes. You're probably best going for the html transitional one:

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">



Donkey -> RE: Please critque! (12/6/2005 7:52:56)

All your gallery images are way too dark, both small and large ones. You need to import them into photo-paint, paint shop pro, photoshop or something simillar and lighten them up considerably. They look like they were taken at night with the lights out. [;)]



Tailslide -> RE: Please critque! (12/6/2005 8:56:29)

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ORIGINAL: evilevets

I added a DOCTYPE. Can anyone tell me if I used the correct one?


Thanks
-Steve


That's the one I'd use if I were you - you just need to ensure you're using the correct code according to that DOCTYPE - I haven't run your page through the W3C validator - but my FF validator plugin (which doesn't seem to always catch errors) says there are 4 actual errors in the code - all to do with the <picture> tag which isn't valid code - is it a FrontPage thing, I've not seen it before?

If that tag is absolutely necessary to your page then you obviously have to leave it in - but it's always a good idea to see if you can fix it first.

The problem with FP (at least the older versions) is that it's designed to allow pages to display in IE - which is a non-standard browser. It doesn't much care about other browsers or web standards.

I have no idea how IE7 - which is supposed to be more standard compliant - will deal with all the proprietory stuff that FP stuck into most of it's sites over the years....



caz -> RE: Please critque! (12/6/2005 12:48:03)

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<picture> tag which isn't valid code - is it a FrontPage thing, I've not seen it before?


I use FP and have never seen it before either, so are you crafting this page in Frontpage Design View, or in Word? The code is stuffed with Office type code which makes it look as if you have done it in Word and then brought it straight in to FP. We need to know the methods you are using before advising you about doctypes etc.



hitlazim -> RE: Please critque! (12/6/2005 13:51:31)

amateur site



caz -> RE: Please critque! (12/6/2005 14:34:55)

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ORIGINAL: hitlazim

amateur site


Yes, very helpful of you. (BTW Your site tried to take control of my machine...[img]http://www.iamviet.com/forum/images/smilies/smilie_what_the.gif[/img])

If you want to use DOCTYPE declarations in your FrontPage Web pages, you should either avoid using FrontPage design-time tools that insert custom markup or use the Optimize HTML feature (Tools menu) in FrontPage to remove most or all FrontPage design-time markup. This allows you to run the pages through a validator without receiving errors on FrontPage markup code.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/default.aspx?pull=/library/en-us/odc_fp2003_ta/html/odc_fpWorkingWithDocType.asp

Frontpage in general - all versions.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/odc_2003_ta/html/odc_ancfrontpage.asp

The do's and don'ts of using html in Frontpage 2002 ( relevant to FP2003 in many cases too)

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/odc_2003_ta/html/odc_landfrontpage02_ta.asp

Browser Compatibility

FrontPage allows you to target specific browser and Web server support of various technologies. On the Tools menu, click Page Options....

There is much on the MS site to help you to use FP sensibly and also in the MSDN library of technical articles, downloads etc. The Tutorials/FAQ's on this site are also a source of practical information about Frontpage and web design. ( Blue bar at the top of the page here.)



evilevets -> RE: Please critque! (12/6/2005 14:59:02)

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ORIGINAL: hitlazim

amateur site


Of course it is! WTF?!?! If I was a pro at this I wouldn't be asking for help now, would I?

Dude, this is a site I put together for someone FOR FREE!!! They are quite satisfied with it, I'm just trying to go the extra mile by improving it as much as possible.

Talk about amateur!?!?! Nice reply. All of the experienced pros who have commented on my site so far have all given me valuable assistance and suggestions on things I need to fix.

Thanks, but I didn't need you to tell me I'm an amateur. I never claimed to be anything else.


-Steve



evilevets -> RE: Please critque! (12/6/2005 15:05:27)


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ORIGINAL: caz

quote:

<picture> tag which isn't valid code - is it a FrontPage thing, I've not seen it before?


I use FP and have never seen it before either, so are you crafting this page in Frontpage Design View, or in Word? The code is stuffed with Office type code which makes it look as if you have done it in Word and then brought it straight in to FP. We need to know the methods you are using before advising you about doctypes etc.



Yeah thats strange. I didn't put the PICTURE tag there. I created this completely in FP2003. No word or Notepad, etc. However, It is based on a free template which I downloaded from some site. I changed most of the template to suite my needs.

Could that have something to do with it, like if the template was made for an older version of FP?


-Steve



caz -> RE: Please critque! (12/6/2005 15:12:37)

Ah, you used a template...that explains a lot. [;)] In your place I'd ditch the template and code it myself, but that's just me; I think that it would be faster to do that rather than unpicking that code to make it validate.

PS. The previous poster's site is best avoided unless you want a zillion popunders on your machine.[:@]



weber2web -> Viva La Rasa (1/13/2006 4:29:30)

hy steve
the basic thing abt ur site is its not vry clumsy and its vry clear .. but when i rate ur site i guess ur site dont do well as it dont look much professional make it professional and let people 2 join ur site
keep tryin CHEERS[;)]



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