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How to add a break in Frontpage Page Headers - 12/7/2005 7:48:36
Hi,
I run a large education website (12manage.com) and use Frontpage 2003 Page Headers at the top of each page to display the page title.
I would like to be able to add a line break in a page header, so that it will read:
Management
Methods Models and Theory
Instead of:
Management. Methods, Models and Theory
I need this because sometimes the titles are long. But for some reason I can't get it done...
Who can give me the golden tip how I can do that? My gratitude will be eternal.
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RE: How to add a break in Frontpage Page Headers - 12/7/2005 9:15:07
Currently your code is <h1 align="center" style="text-align: center">
Management. Methods, Models and Theory</h1> This is a little redundant because you are centering it twice, I would remove the align="center" all together. You might try: <h1 style="text-align: center">Management<br>Methods, Models and Theory</h1> This might give you the desired results but too much space between Management and Methods. If so you might try <h1 style="text-align: center; margin-bottom: 0px">Management<br> Methods, Models and Theory</h1> and you might need to add a space between your <h1> tag and the content
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RE: How to add a break in Frontpage Page Headers - 12/7/2005 11:59:53
Thanks Corey for your quick response.
Unfortunately the solutions you suggest don't work.
If you add a <br> command in a page header, it will treat that as regular text.
So you will see in your browser:
Management<br> Methods, Models and Theory
Instead of the desired:
Management
Methods, Models and Theory
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RE: How to add a break in Frontpage Page Headers - 12/7/2005 12:47:50
Did you add it to the HTML code?
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RE: How to add a break in Frontpage Page Headers - 12/7/2005 12:57:19
a line break should work
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RE: How to add a break in Frontpage Page Headers - 12/7/2005 13:34:04
Nope, I added it by rightclicking the page banner in Frontpage 2003 and then chose for Page Banner properties.
There I added the <br> including a space behind the <br>
What happens then is that indeed in Frontpage it displays the page header correctly, but after you publish it and you view with Internet Explorer it's not showing it right, because it displays the <br> as text.
I know if I do this in the html it will work but that's not an option since I have 4000 pages which are generated dynamically.
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RE: How to add a break in Frontpage Page Headers - 12/7/2005 13:38:04
Ah I did not know it was a page banner generated by Frontpage. I thought it was an <h1> tag. Since that is a Frontpage web component, I do not think you can edit it
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RE: How to add a break in Frontpage Page Headers - 12/10/2005 7:58:27
Using some of the FP features can be good but you then are limited to what you want to do with them. Later down the road you need to change little things like this and unfortunately you cannot.
The benefit to it was - it was probably easier / quicker back then but that always has its drawbacks
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RE: How to add a break in Frontpage Page Headers - 12/10/2005 14:48:35
Could you place the title in a cell which is only wide enough to accomodate the words "Methods Models and Theory". The word "Management" will then appear above the rest of the title when you add it. The limited cell width will force the text to use 2 lines.
No need for hard-returns or line breaks? I don't know if this is a good idea but it does work.
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RE: How to add a break in Frontpage Page Headers - 12/15/2005 15:25:57
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ORIGINAL: Rocket Boy
Could you place the title in a cell which is only wide enough to accomodate the words "Methods Models and Theory". The word "Management" will then appear above the rest of the title when you add it. The limited cell width will force the text to use 2 lines.
Rocket Boy: good suggestion, but doesn't work because what you will get is somethong like:
Management. Methods,
Models and Theory
Also it would mess up all other page headers.
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RE: How to add a break in Frontpage Page Headers - 12/16/2005 10:23:15
How about using two table cells and two banners? Put "Management" in the top cell and then "Methods, Models and Theory" in the bottom cell.
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RE: How to add a break in Frontpage Page Headers - 12/16/2005 11:27:05
Hmm. Well. You could try using an escape character in the code? Like \n or \r? You know try and trick the program into inserting a line break there?
I took a look at the source code on the site and you know what it's doing? It's using an <h1> tag. (Unless you just changed it). You might want to just ditch the page banner. Perhaps switch to using includes?
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RE: How to add a break in Frontpage Page Headers - 12/16/2005 14:59:28
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ORIGINAL: puiwaihin
You could try using an escape character in the code? Like \n or \r?
Tried both, but guess what... neither of them works.
I can't ditch the page banner because I want the title to be at the top of the page, inside the Page Header which contains the menu's which are the same for all pages.
Good suggestion though.
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You'd have to use a fixed width cell though, width specified in px rather than % so it didn't resize. Should work.
to all you guys in this forum, you are really good. But as you see this is not an easy one to crack...
, but putting the 'management' in <p> tags within the <h1> tags works...