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Webwork -> A buying opportunity in the domain aftermarket (12/12/2005 22:14:39)

At present domains are selling in the aftermarket, based upon validated traffic stats, for anywhere between 2-10 years of forward looking PPC revenue based upon current domain traffic/revenue stats.

Current revenue, in this equation as now applied, is the money received/month by the domain owner from any of the various sponsors of PPC "domain landing pages": Revenue.net, Fabulous, Sedo, Traffic Club, etc.

In this equation the current revenue, that is used at "the multiple" (years x revenue) is typically the domainer's revenue share.

What is the domainer's revenue share? The domainer's revenue share is, quite often, 50% of the revenue paid to the PPC landing page host by the PPC feed provider.

Who are the PPC feed providers? Typically, Google, Overture and some filler.

What percentage of the fee, charged to the advertiser by the feed provider, is paid to the PPC landing page service providers? Estimates are 50-70%.

Do the math.

You are an advertiser.

You pay Google/Overture - "the feed provider" - $1.00 for a click.

The feed provider, on a click on a parked domain, pays over to the PPC landing page host $.70 (on a good day?)

The PPC landing page host pays over to the domainer 50% of that revenue, or $.35+/-.

The savvy aftermarket domain buyer is paying 2-10 years max Xs $.35/clicks. You know what? After market domain sellers are falling in line with the mantra. "Okay, yeah, 2,3,5,8x 'my revenue'? Okay, we got a deal."

So, if you are an end user or beneficiary of traffic would it make sense to wade into the aftermarket and look for opportunities to buy clicks for 35% of the cost you are now paying?

Especially if you can get them for only 2-5+ years forward looking revenue.

Especially if the type-in domain is "the industry word": A generic word or phrase. You sell red, green and blue widgets? RedWidgets.com, BlueWidgets.com, GreenWidgets.com.

Will the costs for targeted web traffic go down in the future? Unlikely. So, you are locking in the cost of PPC traffic but buying at today's prices, which are discounted by 50-65% of the actual advertiser's cost-per-click.

Is there some risk in the equation? There is always the unknown. However, given the breadth and depth of the status quo what's the chance that the system will be ripped apart and torn down anytime soon?

I submit for your consideration that there is a buyer's market right now for an end user/beneficiary of direct navigation traffic. Savvy domain traffic aggregators are working the waters. End users should too.

In the realm of buying type-in traffic domains - in lieu of endlessly financing PPC buys - the year 2005 will look to PPC people paying for clicks in 2007 or 2008 like 1998 or 1999 looks to people who just entered the domaining space in 2005. The lament of some domainers in 2005? "Boy, I wish I would have known in 1998 then what I know in 2005." The lament of people paying by the click for traffic in 2008? "Man, I could have locked up that domain forever, based on traffic values, for only $$$$ - which I'm spending every year.

I'm suggesting that today's aftermarket prices for "traffic domains", which sales are frequently based upon a model that pegs the sale price to approximately 35% of the advertiser's annualized cost per click, will look cheap a few years from now . . when more people catch on to what I am talking about right now.

Don't count on this opportunity to last much longer. Aim for some targets. I suggest you focus on parked domains.

And no, my domains are not for sale. :)







Webwork -> RE: A buying opportunity in the domain aftermarket (12/13/2005 0:51:43)

1997: "You paid how much for that? A domain? What's that? You mean you don't even own it? What are you doing to do with it? How are you ever going to compete with Prodigy.com?"

2005: "Damn, I wish I bought Travel.com in 1997 for $5,000."

Same thing is happening in the domain market right now with type-in traffic aftermarket domains.

Smart domain aggregators: "Hey, we'll pay you 2.5 times the annualized revenue that the domain landing page company is paying you! Deal?" Domainer: "Wow! Oh yeah!"

Do the math.

Assume 10,000 clicks on the landing page each year. Pick a larger number or a small number, it doesn't matter since we're talking payment based upon precentages.

Assume advertisers for the domain related term are paying $1.00/click. The domain owner, downline, is paid $.35 click. Upstream handlers keep the other $.65.

The domain owner does a deal for 2.5 years "his revenue", so the domain buyer pays $7-10,000 for the domain.

IF the guy paying $1.00/click bought the same domain for his business - at the same price - he could recoup his investment in a year, if he's an end user of that type of type-in domain traffic. Everything after that is profit.

So, in essence, domainers laboring under the current pricing model are prepared to sell their domains for 1-2 years the net advertising cost to advertisers of the traffic the domain can deliver. Yet, a good generic domain will deliver traffic ad infinitum.

Given the PPC charges and how payment is "shrunk down" to the domain owner the formula for domainers buying domains from other domainers in the aftermarket right now 2-5-7-10 years "at your current net revenue level" is a mispricing and end users should be sending their agents into the market to snap up what they can at todays marked down prices.

Or, you can just sit back, not think to deeply about what I just explained, and wait for 2007 to arrive, at which point you can kick yourself - as I'm sure many will.

Just like domains who arrived in 2005 are kicking themselves for not wading into the market in the 1990s.

I'm up to my eyeballs in domains and more than happy with where I'm at, so this is a giveaway. IF I really could never get enough I'd keep this one to myself, just like so many other aggregators are doing, and it would all still be a mystery.

What to do? Educate your SEO/SEM customers about other ways to lock in traffic. You will be doing them a service, even if they don't quite fully understand.




Thomas Brunt -> RE: A buying opportunity in the domain aftermarket (12/14/2005 11:59:32)

Very interesting stuff. Thanks for this!

t




Larry M. -> RE: A buying opportunity in the domain aftermarket (12/19/2005 15:16:07)

Suspicions confirmed. A contrarian viewpoint from a highly respected source follows:

"I think the author is guilty of hyperbole.

[ Same thing is happening in the domain market right now with type-in traffic aftermarket domains.]

By that he means that the traffic comes to these domains when people make a spelling error when typing a url in the browser - minimal traffic at best. Or it is a legitimate one-word commercial domain that is not being used to actually make money - and people type the word into search engines like "cars.com" - no such thing.

[Do the math]

Assume 10,000 clicks on the landing page each year. Pick a larger number or a small number, it doesn't matter since we're talking payment based upon precentages.]

10,000 is pure fantasy and so is the projections of income. The only money to be made by getting into the scraper site business is chump change.

I have tried hosting PPC ads (Google Adsense) on a legitimate site (not a scraper like he is suggesting) for over a year now and have never received a check. Why? Because the earnings have not yet reached Google's minimum payout of $60.00. This is a site that actually can be found in search engines - not one that is dependant on people making an error typing in a domain name - so there is actual traffic to the site."




iqeez -> RE: A buying opportunity in the domain aftermarket (12/20/2005 9:39:34)

I'm just getting started in the domain name business and realize that I can't afford the domains that's producing significant type-in traffic. The domains in my price range don't have any type-in traffic. What you say may be true, but I can't afford aftermarket domain names. Can you say REAL ESTATE BUBBLE.

But my goal for my domain names, just like real estate property, is to build the value of the domain by building web sites that generates traffic. The more traffic, the more revenue, the higher link popularity, and a better chance of making a living as a domainer.

I talk about this in my blog "Don't Call Me A Domainer!" at www.iqeez.com





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