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StevieB

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css validation and forms - 1/2/2006 11:35:47

Hi all,
I've been trying to learn css and validating as I go. I'm using FP02 and reworking to validate, but I can't get around this one.....

there is no attribute "webbot-action".

"webbot-action" does not appear on the page anywhere that I can see

Here's the code...

<form method="post" action="--WEBBOT-SELF--">
  <input type="hidden" name="VTI-GROUP" value="1"/><p>
  <textarea rows="8" name="S1" cols="61">

A couple of other changes that I made to validate (but have not tested yet)
I added the "/" to close <input type... , and made POST, ACTION, and HIDDEN all lower case

Any suggestions would be appreciated as always.

Steve


dpf Posts: 7121 Joined: 11/12/2003 From: India-napolis Status: offline	RE: css validation and forms - 1/2/2006 11:45:12 webbot is part of MS proprietary code and wont pass W3c validation _____________________________ Dan (in reply to StevieB)


StevieB Posts: 80 Joined: 8/11/2005 From: Yuma, AZ USA Status: offline	RE: css validation and forms - 1/2/2006 11:47:37 Is there a way around it, without using the webbot? (in reply to dpf)


Tailslide Posts: 5999 Joined: 5/10/2005 From: Out here on the raggedy edge Status: offline	RE: css validation and forms - 1/2/2006 11:57:59 You can use another form script like FormMail - http://www.scriptarchive.com/nms.html (replacement for the old FormMail.pl script). If you don't fancy that one then type "Form Script" into Google and have a look at the results. _____________________________ "My strategy is so simple an idiot could have devised it" Little Blue Plane Web Design \| Blood, Sweat & Rust - A Land Rover restoration project (in reply to StevieB)


StevieB Posts: 80 Joined: 8/11/2005 From: Yuma, AZ USA Status: offline	RE: css validation and forms - 1/2/2006 12:04:26 Thanks for the help (in reply to Tailslide)


dpf Posts: 7121 Joined: 11/12/2003 From: India-napolis Status: offline	RE: css validation and forms - 1/2/2006 12:05:26 on the other hand, if everything except the bot validates, thats a good thing isnt it? _____________________________ Dan (in reply to StevieB)


Tailslide Posts: 5999 Joined: 5/10/2005 From: Out here on the raggedy edge Status: offline	RE: css validation and forms - 1/2/2006 12:19:28 Yep. I'd weigh my experience of fiddling with form scripts against exactly how much 100% validation meant to me. I wouldn't be losing too much sleep over it frankly. If you're determined to get 100% validity - then go for it by all means (warning - you'll end up sad and obsessive like me!). I'd actually worry more about the accessibility of the form itself - I think it's more important to use <label> tags to make forms accessible than to worry about FP webbots not being 100% valid (did I just write that?). _____________________________ "My strategy is so simple an idiot could have devised it" Little Blue Plane Web Design \| Blood, Sweat & Rust - A Land Rover restoration project (in reply to dpf)


coreybryant Posts: 2422 Joined: 3/17/2002 From: Castle Rock CO USA Status: offline	RE: css validation and forms - 1/2/2006 12:44:52 A great example on forms and using labels: Tableless forms. I have not upgraded all our forms yet - some have way too many inputs, but a lot of our contact forms, I have moved over to something like this. _____________________________ Corey R. Bryant Merchant Accounts \| Toll Free Numbers \| My Blog \| Expression Web Blog (in reply to Tailslide)


StevieB Posts: 80 Joined: 8/11/2005 From: Yuma, AZ USA Status: offline	RE: css validation and forms - 1/2/2006 12:50:32 I've been looking around the web. there are several Java script help sites and generators. Are java script forms accessible?? Would you recommend them? Thanks for any comments (in reply to Tailslide)


dpf Posts: 7121 Joined: 11/12/2003 From: India-napolis Status: offline	RE: css validation and forms - 1/2/2006 12:55:28 lets clarify javascript "forms" - you can use js to validate the data before submittal - thats not the same validate as w3c - but java sccript cannot process a submitted form - you need a server side script to do that _____________________________ Dan (in reply to StevieB)


Tailslide Posts: 5999 Joined: 5/10/2005 From: Out here on the raggedy edge Status: offline	RE: css validation and forms - 1/2/2006 14:23:29 quote: ORIGINAL: StevieB Are java script forms accessible?? Would you recommend them? Javascript is useful for form validation etc and isn't necessarily inaccessible - it just depends how you use it. Here's a useful link: http://www.usability.com.au/resources/forms.cfm Edit: forgot this one - http://www.websemantics.co.uk/tutorials/accessible_forms/ _____________________________ "My strategy is so simple an idiot could have devised it" Little Blue Plane Web Design \| Blood, Sweat & Rust - A Land Rover restoration project (in reply to StevieB)


StevieB Posts: 80 Joined: 8/11/2005 From: Yuma, AZ USA Status: offline	RE: css validation and forms - 1/2/2006 17:56:42 Now my ignorance will really show.. quote: you need a server side script to do that Can you clarify server side script? I am assuming that the FP extensions are the server side script for FP forms, but if was to use javascript would I need a host that supported js, or some other type of support, or would I simply load a .js file to the site? Just need to know before I jump. Steve (in reply to Tailslide)


dpf Posts: 7121 Joined: 11/12/2003 From: India-napolis Status: offline	RE: css validation and forms - 1/2/2006 18:26:51 server side scripts include php, asp , cold fusion et. al - FP extenstions use asp. javascript is executed on your browser by the browser - no host support needed. so the js code is in your html file and downloaded to the browser. _____________________________ Dan (in reply to StevieB)


womble Posts: 5506 Joined: 3/14/2005 From: Living on the edge Status: offline	RE: css validation and forms - 1/3/2006 5:28:24 quote: I'd actually worry more about the accessibility of the form itself - I think it's more important to use <label> tags to make forms accessible than to worry about FP webbots not being 100% valid (did I just write that?). Yep, you did Tail! (you still hungover from the festivities? ) Jaybee found a solution to the accessible and valid problem (and secure) over in the accessibility forum. _____________________________ ~~ "A cruel god ain't no god at all" ~~ (in reply to dpf)