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Zippity -> How do I get a Word doc into FP (1/20/2006 15:34:35)

I have a 12 page MS Word document (including a table) which I would like to place on my web site.

I am using both MS Word 2002 and FP2002.

Is there a simple way in which I can get the Word document into a new page using FP and still retain all the original formatting?


Thanks in advance.



rdouglass -> RE: How do I get a Word doc into FP (1/20/2006 16:00:04)

1. The simplest way would be to copy and paste the document (in FrontPage) into your web site and leave it as-is as a .DOC and everything. Then place a link somewhere to that file. The file should then download to the client browser as-is.

2. The next easiest way (IMO) is to print it to a .PDF document and do the same thing.

3. The last step would be to copy and paste the text into a new web page and format it there. I *strongly* suggest *not* letting Word save it as an HTML document. Word will fill the page with code-bloat and ends up being problematic.

Those are my suggestions anyways.



Zippity -> RE: How do I get a Word doc into FP (1/20/2006 16:03:42)

Thanks for the feedback.

At the moment, I have the Word doc saved as a file which readers can access (download) via a link on my web page.

My concern was for those who didn't have MS Word or its associated reader on their PC's.



rdouglass -> RE: How do I get a Word doc into FP (1/20/2006 16:19:26)

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2. The next easiest way (IMO) is to print it to a .PDF document and do the same thing.


That would solve that issue 99% of the time. Almost all web users have Adobe Acrobat Reader (or some other program that will read PDF files).

I use a little print driver called pdfFactory that (IIRC) was only about $40 and has been one of my most valuable tools ever.



caz -> RE: How do I get a Word doc into FP (1/20/2006 16:51:44)

You could save the Word document in rtf format which can then be read without Word or it's viewers. This will also cope with any firewall blocking and still retain the Word formatting.[;)]



rdouglass -> RE: How do I get a Word doc into FP (1/20/2006 17:06:55)

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Word document in rtf format


Never thought of that actually. Sounds better than my solution....[;)]



treetopsranch -> RE: How do I get a Word doc into FP (1/20/2006 19:15:15)

I have elderly clients viewing one of my sites that had problems with rtf files. (Didn't know how to open Word, some had Macs that used a slightly different word processor, no knowledge of computers, just did email, etc, etc.) I found the PDF solution seemed to work fine for those people.



Zippity -> RE: How do I get a Word doc into FP (1/21/2006 4:47:09)

Problem solved [:)]

I saved my Word doc as an htm file, and copied it into my file folder.

It downloads sweetly [:)]



rdouglass -> RE: How do I get a Word doc into FP (1/21/2006 10:17:16)

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I saved my Word doc as an htm file


I wouldn't make it a habit. [;)] Word is *not* a good HTML editor (not even acceptable IMO).

That is rarely ever a recommended solution. Yes it works but is not recommended.



BeTheBall -> RE: How do I get a Word doc into FP (1/21/2006 12:15:03)

One way to convert a Word file to HTML without getting the bloat is to open a new page in FP, then choose Insert, then File. In the dropdown labeled, Files of type, choose the version of Word that best matches that of the document and then browse to the file and double click it. You will lose some of the formatting, but you will also lose all the extra MS bloat. Just a thought.



Zippity -> RE: How do I get a Word doc into FP (1/21/2006 16:36:08)

BeTheBall

Thanks for the tip.

After loading the converter file, the document came across easily [:)]

Unfortunately, most of the numbered paragraphs lost their numbering and now I cannot renumber and indent the paragraphs as they were lined in the original document (block indenting does not work) [:(]



womble -> RE: How do I get a Word doc into FP (1/21/2006 18:27:32)

I'd suggest going down the pdf route. As RDouglass says, the vast majority of visitors will have a pdf reader installed (and to be safe you can always put a link to the Adobe Acrobat reader site with your downloads as well for the minority that don't (visitors will be used to seeing the 'download Acrobat Reader software here' links on sites all over the web anyway, so shouldn't mind that.

Another advantage with pdfs is that they keep their formatting, unlike Word documents where paragraphs and pics can fall off pages and mess up your layout if the viewer has different settings set up in Word that you did when you created the document (and also lessens the chance of someone downloading your files, tweaking them, then claiming them as their own creations).

As for creating pdfs, for Adobe software you're talking serious $$, but you can pick up print driver software that outputs to a pdf file very cheaply, or there's even some open source ones out there. I'm using one called PDFCreator on my laptop, and it does the job just as well as the paid software I have on the PC.



cfdtv1 -> RE: How do I get a Word doc into FP (1/21/2006 22:56:18)

OK, I have a question for Zippity, Did you want to have the pages to be down loaded or to make web pages out of the word doc? I would have to agree with the PDF file. So very universal and the reader is FREE. Nobody has an excuse for not being able to view the file.

However, using word to convert to html files is a very bad idea as I found out. If you want to make web pages, why not just copy the all the text from word to notepad and then copy from notepad to your new web page?

Just a thought

Gary



Zippity -> RE: How do I get a Word doc into FP (1/21/2006 23:10:33)

I want the document to be part of the displayable web page, not a document for downloading purposes.

Maybe I am going to have to purchase a PDF write programme, rather than trying with the "freebie" deckPDF 2.5 that I downloaded earlier today.

I tried to insert a .prn file created from deskPDF 2.5 into a blank page but it won't display [:(]

Bear with me here folks [:)]



cfdtv1 -> RE: How do I get a Word doc into FP (1/24/2006 19:28:26)

Zippity, If you just want to make the document a web page you just need to copy the text to notepad (found under the accessories tab). Next copy the text from notepad and paste it to a new web page. Copying the text to notepad removes all the formatting that causes trouble in the HTML atmosphere.

Gary



Zippity -> RE: How do I get a Word doc into FP (1/24/2006 19:35:40)

Thanks Gary and others.

My "freebie" works a treat - once I figured out how to use it properly [:D][:D]



traveler98 -> RE: How do I get a Word doc into FP (1/24/2006 19:47:45)

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ORIGINAL: rdouglass


I use a little print driver called pdfFactory that (IIRC) was only about $40 and has been one of my most valuable tools ever.


I use PDF Factory also...best $40 I have spent on software. I also have to agree the PDF way seems the easiest if you want to keep original format. Otherwise if you just want to view then copy word to notepad to frontpage.




bobby -> RE: How do I get a Word doc into FP (1/24/2006 22:56:55)

i recently downloaded primoPDF (free) and love it... pdf generating print driver. Works great from any file type that can print.




dennis -> RE: How do I get a Word doc into FP (1/25/2006 17:15:10)

I also use PrimoPDF bobby and have had very good results with it. Free is good, too!



CapnCook -> RE: How do I get a Word doc into FP (1/26/2006 13:17:57)

While PDF is certainly the best option for downloadable files, you can easily bring Word text into an FP page by:

1. Selecting the text in Word
2. In FP, click Edit/Paste Special/Normal paragraphs with line breaks

This removes all of the horrendous code-bloat and inserts the text with paragraph formatting intact. You may then insert images and reformat text (that is, set font characteristics) as you desire.

Having your document as an HTML page makes the information more accessible. Many people unused to the web, will click on a PDF link and wonder why their browser appears to lock up, while Acrobat Reader loads. (How many of us fail to instruct visitors to right/click the link to download and not to left/click to view?)

Another trick:

If you have an existing page with the font set the way you want it, delete all but two adjacent characters. Insert the new text (best from Notepad or UltraEdit) between the two characters and, voila! - properly formatted text. (Don't forget to delete the two original characters - and rename the file!).

I mention UltraEdit - it is a much higher level text editor than Notepad and offers lots of editing features of use to webbies. IDMcomp



polyclay -> RE: How do I get a Word doc into FP (6/26/2007 19:16:14)

To transfer the contents of a Word 2003 document to a FP 2003 web page, while retaining the hyperlinks but not the bad code that makes it hard to control the width of the page:

1. Copy & paste the Word text into Notepad
2. Copy & paste the Notepad text into a new Word doc
3. In Word, choose Format, then AutoFormat, and run AutoFormat. If that doesn't restore the hyperlinks, you have to set the AutoFormat in Tools, AutoCorrect Options, AutoFormat as You Type, Internet & network paths with hyperlinks (check as ON)



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