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Please shoot me! - 3/9/2006 11:58:16   
I have reached my limit. Before I continue please realize that I have no prior web design knowledge before joining this forum. I have learned a lot but am still a complete noob, so that being said please excuse my "dumba$$ness".

I have a centered table and w/in it different things. I have a 21'' wide screen moniter so when I change the work space size the table stays centered just fine..... my problem is everything else! I have done everything i can think of and read a bunch of other posts. help before i throw every computer product I own out of a 2nd floor window!
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RE: Please shoot me! - 3/9/2006 12:02:27   
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my problem is everything else!


That's a fairly wide ranging problem!!

Can you upload it all to the web and post the URL so we can see - it's soooo much easier to sort stuff out that way.



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RE: Please shoot me! - 3/9/2006 12:04:53   
I just realized that nothing was in cells! :)...oops I'll try that. I'm a moron!
I'm still working on the site there's nothing to upload other then code.


Let me explain the problem a little better. I read on a post on how to center a table in a page.. fine done! But now I have a logo, links (soon), a scrollable text box, and other various graphics in said table. Now here's the issue... I tried to put all of this in cells so maybe that would force it to stay in place but to no avail. When ever the work area changes size it moves around and the format is all funky! Obvisously that's not what I want. You guys are all really helpful and knowledgable that's why I come here and read, but this VERY basic thing eludes my grasp. :) Help please:)

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RE: Please shoot me! - 3/9/2006 17:37:08   
Have you given your main table a width? If you made it 100% it will expand or contract according the size of the screen it is on. That is known as a fluid design. They are not suitable if you want elements to appear in precise locations. You would probably be better off using a fixed width table - 760 pixels is usually the standard, as this doesn't produce scroll bars on 800x600 resolution.

If you have a 21" monitor, you need to be very aware that what you are seeing, is not what most other people will see.

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RE: Please shoot me! - 3/9/2006 17:41:36   
Well I have made the table a % width. The issuses I was having was that I have layers all over the place, and apparently you can't have layers in a cell. So I have to now figure out how to have a scrolling text box in the middleof a page w/o using layers....

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RE: Please shoot me! - 3/10/2006 10:05:37   
tables was formerly used by most designers to control page layout... css/divs/layers are becoming more common but tables are still a good "tried and true" method especially for novices. it is my understanding that the 2 dont mix well - either lay out your page with tables (rows and column and cells) or css/div/layers. i could be wroong on that

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RE: Please shoot me! - 3/10/2006 12:47:33   
Ok I have since moved on from tables and i'm now learning CSS. BUT I'm still having trouble centering th page. much like this forum has it. I can make it static and have it be in an absolute position but to center it is still escaping my frustrated grasp.:) any ideas, oh you gurus of the web

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RE: Please shoot me! - 3/10/2006 13:04:21   
try "margin: 0 auto;" for the containing div. That should set equal margins on either side of the div, centerig the page.

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RE: Please shoot me! - 3/10/2006 13:48:12   
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but to center it


You could also do something like this:

<div align="center">
<center>

<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="300">
<tr>
<td></td>
<td></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td></td>
<td></td>
</tr>
</table>
</center>
</div>


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RE: Please shoot me! - 3/10/2006 13:54:26   
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ORIGINAL: rdouglass

You could also do something like this:

<div align="center">
<center>

<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="300">
<tr>
<td></td>
<td></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td></td>
<td></td>
</tr>
</table>
</center>
</div>




Isn't that the code to center a table... w/in a layer or section? please forgive my ignorance

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RE: Please shoot me! - 3/10/2006 13:59:20   
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Isn't that the code to center a table... w/in a layer or section?


Yes it is but if it's not contained in any other element (another divm table, etc.), it will center whatever is inside the <div> on the page.

Do you have a URL where you can show us which table is not centered?

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RE: Please shoot me! - 3/10/2006 14:07:26   
no, no url just working on it at work while the real page is at home. so all i have is a example code.


I CAN'T BELIEVE IT WAS THAT FREAKIN' SIMPLE!!!!!!:) damn it! THanky ou i think I've got it now... at least for a little while
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RE: Please shoot me! - 3/14/2006 11:22:34   
ok here is the code... I cannot get this thing centered.
<html>
<head>
<style type="text/css">
div
{
background-color:#FFFFFF;
width:400px;
height:150px;
overflow: auto
}
body {
scrollbar-arrow-color: #000000;
scrollbar-base-color: white;
scrollbar-dark-shadow-color: white;
scrollbar-track-color: white;
scrollbar-face-color: white;
scrollbar-shadow-color: white;
scrollbar-highlight-color: white;
scrollbar-3d-light-color: white;
}
</STYLE> </style>
</head>

<body>
<center>
<p>The overflow property decides what to do if the content inside an element exceeds the given width and height properties.</p></center>
<div align="center">
<center>
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="350">
<tr>
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</td>
</tr>
</table>
</center>
</div>
</body>

</html>


</html>



when I mean centered I mean in the middle of the page not the text centered, that's one of the few things i can do. HELP!!!

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RE: Please shoot me! - 3/14/2006 11:45:54   
Must be using IE. :)

Try changing your <body> tag to this:

<body style="text-align:center; margin:0 auto;">

See, IE (in typical MS fashion) does not apply the 'center' style from the box you're defining but the 'parent' container - which in this situation is the 'body'.

That help any?

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RE: Please shoot me! - 3/14/2006 12:27:07   
it helps. I thank you...

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RE: Please shoot me! - 3/16/2006 15:18:34   
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ORIGINAL: reformed hater

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OK, this is off topic, but can you tell us what this paragraph is about? I only recognize a word here and there; I don't know enough Latin to be really dangerous. So what is the subject of this web page?
(Please don't tell me it's just filler to hold a place for the real text someday!)

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RE: Please shoot me! - 3/16/2006 15:26:06   
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(Please don't tell me it's just filler to hold a place for the real text someday!)


:):) Thats exactly what it is DK.:):)

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RE: Please shoot me! - 3/16/2006 15:28:29   
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ORIGINAL: Mike54

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(Please don't tell me it's just filler to hold a place for the real text someday!)


:):) Thats exactly what it is DK.:):)


Dang, I was hoping you wouldn't say that. I once saw the Declaration of Independence used that way, in really, really tiny text. How demeaning! Oh, never mind. . .

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