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tres -> scroll bars won't show 'color' in mozilla (3/27/2006 11:01:39)

Hi All,
I've created a website with frontpage and the scrollbars look good in MSIE but when I view the page online in MOZILLA the scroll bars are the basic 'blue'. not the 'orange' that I put code to be and as it shows up in IE. What can I do to make it look the same in Mozilla? THANKS for any help!
Tres



womble -> RE: scroll bars won't show 'color' in mozilla (3/27/2006 11:11:24)

It's M$ proprietary stuff and won't work in Gecko-based browsers (Firefox, Netscape Navigator, Mozilla) - it's not part of the W3C specifications and isn't supported by standards compliant browsers.



tres -> RE: scroll bars won't show 'color' in mozilla (3/27/2006 11:17:01)

So basically you are saying nothing I can do about it? THanks for letting me know. At least I won't stress about not finding an answer! Cheers,
Tres



womble -> RE: scroll bars won't show 'color' in mozilla (3/27/2006 11:25:23)

None that I know of unless there's some clever javascript way of doing it or something. Personally I'd concentrate on the content and usability of your site - visitors are hopefully going to be coming to your site for the content, not the colour of the scrollbars. [;)]



tres -> RE: scroll bars won't show 'color' in mozilla (3/27/2006 11:33:15)

THANKS!!!![:D]



reformed hater -> RE: scroll bars won't show 'color' in mozilla (3/27/2006 11:43:09)

So basically what you're saying Womble is if I make a div in CSS and have the scrolls be a different colo(u)r FF and Opera won't pick it up?[&o]
Because that'll throw off my entire design...[:(]



Tailslide -> RE: scroll bars won't show 'color' in mozilla (3/27/2006 11:52:58)

Womble is 100% correct. The code to change the look and feel of the scrollbar is IE proprietory code - doesn't work in any other browser or platform to my knowledge nor will it validate.

Edit: also, far as I know (and I've never bothered with coloured scrollbars so I'm not 100% sure) but if you're a good little coder and have a DOCTYPE then IE6 won't show the coloured scrollbars either unless you hack it by applying them to the html element in the stylesheet or drop the DOCTYPE which puts IE6 into retarded mode.



womble -> RE: scroll bars won't show 'color' in mozilla (3/27/2006 13:30:31)

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retarded mode

ain't that it's natural state?

...an' of course

<south_pacific>
Elements, attributes and tags:
We got reams and reams of code,
We got ids on on our <div>s,
We got code and we got scripts
You can pick right off the net,
We got class and we got style
And a lot of dandy names!
What ain't we got?
We ain't got doctypes!

There is nothing like a Doctype,
Nothin' in the world!
There is nothin' you can name
That is anythin' like a Doctype...!

...Lots of things in life are beautiful, but brother,
There is one particular thing that is nothin' whatsoever
In any way, shape or form like any other.

There is nothin' like a Doctype,
Nothin' in the world,
There is nothin' you can name
That is anythin' like a Doctype!
</south_pacific>

Ummm, not quite sure what came over me there....[8|]

You like doctypes Tail? Really? We'd never have guessed. [;)]



Tailslide -> RE: scroll bars won't show 'color' in mozilla (3/27/2006 14:28:23)

[sm=rotfl.gif][sm=rotfl.gif]

You know you're a genius Womble don't you!



tres -> RE: scroll bars won't show 'color' in mozilla (3/28/2006 1:48:42)

Are you a musical comedy officionado as well? ![:)]
I wish I knew what DOCTYPE was though.. now you are way out of my league! I bet I would appreciate the parody even more. I better research it.
I'm glad I found this forum.
Cheers All,
Tres



womble -> RE: scroll bars won't show 'color' in mozilla (3/28/2006 3:58:07)

Nah, I'm just plain crazy! [:D]

This article explains all about doctypes and why you should use them, and this page at the W3C explains the list of valid doctypes and how to use them.



reformed hater -> RE: scroll bars won't show 'color' in mozilla (3/28/2006 9:25:07)

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This article explains all about doctypes and why you should use them, and this page at the W3C explains the list of valid doctypes and how to use them.


Ok I've read both articles and I don't understand DOCTYPES. i don't get how we know which type our site is... is it html strict or loose or blah blah.... this is a serious noob question. I bow to the wisdom of you the God's (and queen [Tail]) of web design. [8|]



spitfire -> RE: scroll bars won't show 'color' in mozilla (3/28/2006 9:48:06)

It's kinda like the other way around. Decide which coding standard you are up to, then pick the DocType that accords with that.

If you are really, really, new to coding then choose the html 4.01 transitional one. However, if you really want to get up to date choose html strict or xhtml strict. Either one of those, doesn't really matter which. A transitional (loose) DocType is very forgiving but if you use a strict DocType and validate your code regularly, it will force you into learning how to code (x)html to the standards that all (well except IE on occasion) browsers understand - and quite right too![;)]



reformed hater -> RE: scroll bars won't show 'color' in mozilla (3/28/2006 10:18:30)

didn't want to hijack Tres' thread so I made my own... please help me there... if not then I see how you silly brits are[8D]



spitfire -> RE: scroll bars won't show 'color' in mozilla (3/28/2006 10:26:40)


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if not then I see how you silly brits are

You asking for a split-lip, RH? [:@] Or would you care to rephrase that[8D]



dpf -> RE: scroll bars won't show 'color' in mozilla (3/28/2006 10:28:54)

does goofy brits work?



spitfire -> RE: scroll bars won't show 'color' in mozilla (3/28/2006 10:41:27)

Not to elicit my help anymore, never, ever again. But Tail has the title DocType Czar. So over to you old gel and the "Very Best of British" to you[:)]



tres -> RE: scroll bars won't show 'color' in mozilla (3/28/2006 10:42:24)

Don't mind me... hijack away... I'm learning through this.. I'm very new to it all! [:D]
Tres



womble -> RE: scroll bars won't show 'color' in mozilla (3/28/2006 10:48:25)

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ORIGINAL: spitfire

Not to elicit my help anymore, never, ever again. But Tail has the title DocType Czar. So over to you old gel and the "Very Best of British" to you[:)]


Correction old chap, Tail is infact the "Doctype Queen" and "Queen of Cyberspace" - it's a dual title thing. She uses two stylesheets for it and feeds old browsers a different version using @import....

[:D]



reformed hater -> RE: scroll bars won't show 'color' in mozilla (3/28/2006 10:52:44)

you know us Americans, always flying off the handle. [:o] But the Czar is helping on the other thread....[:)] I'm learning quite a bit from this place. Glad I found it



womble -> RE: scroll bars won't show 'color' in mozilla (3/28/2006 11:00:57)

it's addictive though.....[;)]



spitfire -> RE: scroll bars won't show 'color' in mozilla (3/28/2006 11:05:50)


quote:

ORIGINAL: womble
Correction old chap, Tail is infact the "Doctype Queen" and "Queen of Cyberspace" - it's a dual title thing. She uses two stylesheets for it and feeds old browsers a different version using @import....
[:D]

Now you *are* being silly, Petal. Have to say that in case you are taken trans-atlantic-literaly.

/is now awaiting ?s about @import.[;)]



Tailslide -> RE: scroll bars won't show 'color' in mozilla (3/28/2006 11:27:51)

quote:

ORIGINAL: womble


Correction old chap, Tail is infact the "Doctype Queen" and "Queen of Cyberspace"


You would in fact laugh your self bald if you knew how little I actually know! Please don't mistake my blagging for actual knowledge beyond direct experience, trial and error.

That said, I'm a sucker for titles.



dpf -> RE: scroll bars won't show 'color' in mozilla (3/28/2006 11:30:20)

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You would in fact laugh your self bald if you knew how little I actually know
well you would laugh if you knew how little laughing i need to do to laugh myself bald!!!!



spitfire -> RE: scroll bars won't show 'color' in mozilla (3/28/2006 12:01:06)

Ah... someone who is follically-challenged[;)]
I feel your pain.



reformed hater -> RE: scroll bars won't show 'color' in mozilla (3/28/2006 14:41:36)

quote:

ORIGINAL: womble

it's addictive though.....[;)]


It is... look at how posts I have, and about 4 are useful[:D]

quote:

ORIGINAL: spitfire

Ah... someone who is follically-challenged[;)]
I feel your pain.


Shine you head(s) for a nickle... that more than I'm making designing this headache..oops I mean site



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