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tres Posts: 7 Joined: 3/27/2006 Status: offline	scroll bars won't show 'color' in mozilla - 3/27/2006 11:01:39 Hi All, I've created a website with frontpage and the scrollbars look good in MSIE but when I view the page online in MOZILLA the scroll bars are the basic 'blue'. not the 'orange' that I put code to be and as it shows up in IE. What can I do to make it look the same in Mozilla? THANKS for any help! Tres


womble Posts: 5603 Joined: 3/14/2005 From: Living on the edge Status: offline	RE: scroll bars won't show 'color' in mozilla - 3/27/2006 11:11:24 It's M$ proprietary stuff and won't work in Gecko-based browsers (Firefox, Netscape Navigator, Mozilla) - it's not part of the W3C specifications and isn't supported by standards compliant browsers. _____________________________ ~~ "A cruel god ain't no god at all" ~~ (in reply to tres)


tres Posts: 7 Joined: 3/27/2006 Status: offline	RE: scroll bars won't show 'color' in mozilla - 3/27/2006 11:17:01 So basically you are saying nothing I can do about it? THanks for letting me know. At least I won't stress about not finding an answer! Cheers, Tres (in reply to womble)


womble Posts: 5603 Joined: 3/14/2005 From: Living on the edge Status: offline	RE: scroll bars won't show 'color' in mozilla - 3/27/2006 11:25:23 None that I know of unless there's some clever javascript way of doing it or something. Personally I'd concentrate on the content and usability of your site - visitors are hopefully going to be coming to your site for the content, not the colour of the scrollbars. _____________________________ ~~ "A cruel god ain't no god at all" ~~ (in reply to tres)


tres Posts: 7 Joined: 3/27/2006 Status: offline	RE: scroll bars won't show 'color' in mozilla - 3/27/2006 11:33:15 THANKS!!!! (in reply to womble)


reformed hater Posts: 167 Joined: 2/1/2006 From: The land of sun and hurricanes; US Status: offline	RE: scroll bars won't show 'color' in mozilla - 3/27/2006 11:43:09 So basically what you're saying Womble is if I make a div in CSS and have the scrolls be a different colo(u)r FF and Opera won't pick it up? Because that'll throw off my entire design... _____________________________ When asked what the White House was like by a British student George W. Bush responded �It is White" (in reply to tres)


Tailslide Posts: 6121 Joined: 5/10/2005 From: Out here on the raggedy edge Status: offline	RE: scroll bars won't show 'color' in mozilla - 3/27/2006 11:52:58 Womble is 100% correct. The code to change the look and feel of the scrollbar is IE proprietory code - doesn't work in any other browser or platform to my knowledge nor will it validate. Edit: also, far as I know (and I've never bothered with coloured scrollbars so I'm not 100% sure) but if you're a good little coder and have a DOCTYPE then IE6 won't show the coloured scrollbars either unless you hack it by applying them to the html element in the stylesheet or drop the DOCTYPE which puts IE6 into retarded mode. _____________________________ "My strategy is so simple an idiot could have devised it" Little Blue Plane Web Design \| Blood, Sweat & Rust - A Land Rover restoration project (in reply to reformed hater)


womble Posts: 5603 Joined: 3/14/2005 From: Living on the edge Status: offline	RE: scroll bars won't show 'color' in mozilla - 3/27/2006 13:30:31 quote: retarded mode ain't that it's natural state? ...an' of course <south_pacific> Elements, attributes and tags: We got reams and reams of code, We got ids on on our <div>s, We got code and we got scripts You can pick right off the net, We got class and we got style And a lot of dandy names! What ain't we got? We ain't got doctypes! There is nothing like a Doctype, Nothin' in the world! There is nothin' you can name That is anythin' like a Doctype...! ...Lots of things in life are beautiful, but brother, There is one particular thing that is nothin' whatsoever In any way, shape or form like any other. There is nothin' like a Doctype, Nothin' in the world, There is nothin' you can name That is anythin' like a Doctype! </south_pacific> Ummm, not quite sure what came over me there.... You like doctypes Tail? Really? We'd never have guessed. _____________________________ ~~ "A cruel god ain't no god at all" ~~ (in reply to Tailslide)


Tailslide Posts: 6121 Joined: 5/10/2005 From: Out here on the raggedy edge Status: offline	RE: scroll bars won't show 'color' in mozilla - 3/27/2006 14:28:23 You know you're a genius Womble don't you! _____________________________ "My strategy is so simple an idiot could have devised it" Little Blue Plane Web Design \| Blood, Sweat & Rust - A Land Rover restoration project (in reply to womble)


tres Posts: 7 Joined: 3/27/2006 Status: offline	RE: scroll bars won't show 'color' in mozilla - 3/28/2006 1:48:42 Are you a musical comedy officionado as well? ! I wish I knew what DOCTYPE was though.. now you are way out of my league! I bet I would appreciate the parody even more. I better research it. I'm glad I found this forum. Cheers All, Tres (in reply to womble)


womble Posts: 5603 Joined: 3/14/2005 From: Living on the edge Status: offline	RE: scroll bars won't show 'color' in mozilla - 3/28/2006 3:58:07 Nah, I'm just plain crazy! This article explains all about doctypes and why you should use them, and this page at the W3C explains the list of valid doctypes and how to use them. _____________________________ ~~ "A cruel god ain't no god at all" ~~ (in reply to tres)


reformed hater Posts: 167 Joined: 2/1/2006 From: The land of sun and hurricanes; US Status: offline	RE: scroll bars won't show 'color' in mozilla - 3/28/2006 9:25:07 quote: This article explains all about doctypes and why you should use them, and this page at the W3C explains the list of valid doctypes and how to use them. Ok I've read both articles and I don't understand DOCTYPES. i don't get how we know which type our site is... is it html strict or loose or blah blah.... this is a serious noob question. I bow to the wisdom of you the God's (and queen [Tail]) of web design. _____________________________ When asked what the White House was like by a British student George W. Bush responded �It is White" (in reply to womble)


spitfire Posts: 424 Joined: 8/6/2005 Status: offline	RE: scroll bars won't show 'color' in mozilla - 3/28/2006 9:48:06 It's kinda like the other way around. Decide which coding standard you are up to, then pick the DocType that accords with that. If you are really, really, new to coding then choose the html 4.01 transitional one. However, if you really want to get up to date choose html strict or xhtml strict. Either one of those, doesn't really matter which. A transitional (loose) DocType is very forgiving but if you use a strict DocType and validate your code regularly, it will force you into learning how to code (x)html to the standards that all (well except IE on occasion) browsers understand - and quite right too! (in reply to reformed hater)


reformed hater Posts: 167 Joined: 2/1/2006 From: The land of sun and hurricanes; US Status: offline	RE: scroll bars won't show 'color' in mozilla - 3/28/2006 10:18:30 didn't want to hijack Tres' thread so I made my own... please help me there... if not then I see how you silly brits are _____________________________ When asked what the White House was like by a British student George W. Bush responded �It is White" (in reply to spitfire)


spitfire Posts: 424 Joined: 8/6/2005 Status: offline	RE: scroll bars won't show 'color' in mozilla - 3/28/2006 10:26:40 quote: if not then I see how you silly brits are You asking for a split-lip, RH? Or would you care to rephrase that (in reply to reformed hater)


dpf Posts: 7123 Joined: 11/12/2003 From: India-napolis Status: offline	RE: scroll bars won't show 'color' in mozilla - 3/28/2006 10:28:54 does goofy brits work? _____________________________ Dan (in reply to spitfire)


spitfire Posts: 424 Joined: 8/6/2005 Status: offline	RE: scroll bars won't show 'color' in mozilla - 3/28/2006 10:41:27 Not to elicit my help anymore, never, ever again. But Tail has the title DocType Czar. So over to you old gel and the "Very Best of British" to you (in reply to dpf)


tres Posts: 7 Joined: 3/27/2006 Status: offline	RE: scroll bars won't show 'color' in mozilla - 3/28/2006 10:42:24 Don't mind me... hijack away... I'm learning through this.. I'm very new to it all! Tres (in reply to reformed hater)


womble Posts: 5603 Joined: 3/14/2005 From: Living on the edge Status: offline	RE: scroll bars won't show 'color' in mozilla - 3/28/2006 10:48:25 quote: ORIGINAL: spitfire Not to elicit my help anymore, never, ever again. But Tail has the title DocType Czar. So over to you old gel and the "Very Best of British" to you Correction old chap, Tail is infact the "Doctype Queen" and "Queen of Cyberspace" - it's a dual title thing. She uses two stylesheets for it and feeds old browsers a different version using @import.... _____________________________ ~~ "A cruel god ain't no god at all" ~~ (in reply to spitfire)


reformed hater Posts: 167 Joined: 2/1/2006 From: The land of sun and hurricanes; US Status: offline	RE: scroll bars won't show 'color' in mozilla - 3/28/2006 10:52:44 you know us Americans, always flying off the handle. But the Czar is helping on the other thread.... I'm learning quite a bit from this place. Glad I found it _____________________________ When asked what the White House was like by a British student George W. Bush responded �It is White" (in reply to spitfire)


womble Posts: 5603 Joined: 3/14/2005 From: Living on the edge Status: offline	RE: scroll bars won't show 'color' in mozilla - 3/28/2006 11:00:57 it's addictive though..... _____________________________ ~~ "A cruel god ain't no god at all" ~~ (in reply to reformed hater)


spitfire Posts: 424 Joined: 8/6/2005 Status: offline	RE: scroll bars won't show 'color' in mozilla - 3/28/2006 11:05:50 quote: ORIGINAL: womble Correction old chap, Tail is infact the "Doctype Queen" and "Queen of Cyberspace" - it's a dual title thing. She uses two stylesheets for it and feeds old browsers a different version using @import.... Now you are being silly, Petal. Have to say that in case you are taken trans-atlantic-literaly. /is now awaiting ?s about @import. (in reply to womble)


Tailslide Posts: 6121 Joined: 5/10/2005 From: Out here on the raggedy edge Status: offline	RE: scroll bars won't show 'color' in mozilla - 3/28/2006 11:27:51 quote: ORIGINAL: womble Correction old chap, Tail is infact the "Doctype Queen" and "Queen of Cyberspace" You would in fact laugh your self bald if you knew how little I actually know! Please don't mistake my blagging for actual knowledge beyond direct experience, trial and error. That said, I'm a sucker for titles. _____________________________ "My strategy is so simple an idiot could have devised it" Little Blue Plane Web Design \| Blood, Sweat & Rust - A Land Rover restoration project (in reply to womble)


dpf Posts: 7123 Joined: 11/12/2003 From: India-napolis Status: offline	RE: scroll bars won't show 'color' in mozilla - 3/28/2006 11:30:20 quote: You would in fact laugh your self bald if you knew how little I actually know well you would laugh if you knew how little laughing i need to do to laugh myself bald!!!! _____________________________ Dan (in reply to Tailslide)


spitfire Posts: 424 Joined: 8/6/2005 Status: offline	RE: scroll bars won't show 'color' in mozilla - 3/28/2006 12:01:06 Ah... someone who is follically-challenged I feel your pain. (in reply to dpf)

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RE: scroll bars won't show 'color' in mozilla - 3/28/2006 14:41:36

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ORIGINAL: womble

it's addictive though.....

It is... look at how posts I have, and about 4 are useful

quote:

ORIGINAL: spitfire

Ah... someone who is follically-challenged
I feel your pain.

Shine you head(s) for a nickle... that more than I'm making designing this headache..oops I mean site

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When asked what the White House was like by a British student George W. Bush responded �It is White"

(in reply to womble)