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zoomers92
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Help - Firefox Issues - 4/24/2006 19:29:29
Hello All!
I have designed a webpage for my local chapter of Kappa Delta Sorority using Frontpage 2003 (I have created other pages in the same way). I don't write my own code b/c I don't know how and haven't had the time to sit down and figure it all out (which I know takes more than a few hours - more like a lifetime). I know that Frontpage has some issues when someone tries to use something other than IE. My question is - is there a "quick" fix that doesn't require learning to write code? And would some other program be better to use like Dreamweaver? I know that this is a complicated issue that will take me some time to fix - my use of "quick fix" was meant to be relative. Any help would be greatful.
Oh - the specific issue is that the page can be seen but none of the buttons work and some things on the page seem to be skewed as well as some background elements are missing. The page is:
http://kappadelta.drury.edu/home.htm
Thanks
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caz
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RE: Help - Firefox Issues - 4/25/2006 6:07:06
I tried to do a "quick fix" for that page, to at least let you enter the site in FF but it proved impossible ( for me anyway - I work in code view in Fp). The problems you are having as I think you know quite well are caused by this,
quote:
<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40">
You are using MS proprietry code and FF cannot interpret it - neither will other standards compliant browsers either. The only fix that I can think of for you is not quick either and that is learn how to use FP sensibly. By all means spend a lot of cash buying Dreamweaver, but I doubt whether that will be a quick fix for you because it also has a learning curve in order to use it.
Meanwhile, perhaps someone who uses FP in Design View may come along with a magic fix for you.
Sorry if I have seemed overly critical for your first post, but we see this kind of question frequently here. FP is capable of producing cross browser code, but you do have to learn how to use it - it's not like using Word for documents and the "drag and drop" method often results in the kind of problems you are experiencing. Have a look at another question here
Then you can use the tutorials on this site (blue bar at the top of this page) to get a better understanding of FP and web design.
Welcome to Outfront btw, 
< Message edited by caz -- 4/25/2006 6:15:21 >
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jaybee
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RE: Help - Firefox Issues - 4/25/2006 6:13:25
The code that's in that page isn't something FP puts in as standard. Something in the "Microsoft dynamic disaster" section has been activated.
It's all the following stuff....... and until that's removed, no other browser will touch it.
<!--[if gte vml 1]><v:shapetype id="_x0000_t202"
coordsize="21600,21600" o:spt="202" path="m,l,21600r21600,l21600,xe">
<v:stroke joinstyle="miter"/>
<v:path gradientshapeok="t" o:connecttype="rect"/>
</v:shapetype><v:shape id="_x0000_s1063" type="#_x0000_t202" alt="" style='position:absolute;
left:330pt;top:233.25pt;width:151.5pt;height:27pt;z-index:1' stroked="f">
<v:fill opacity="0"/>
<v:textbox>
<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%" height="100%">
<tr>
<td align="center"><i><b>
<a style="text-decoration: none" href="new_page_1.htm">
<font face="Bradley Hand ITC" color="#007500" size="5">Click to Enter</font></a></b></i></td>
</tr>
</table>
</v:textbox>
</v:shape><![endif]--><![if !vml]><span style='mso-ignore:vglayout;position:
absolute;z-index:1;left:440px;top:311px;width:206px;height:40px'><img
width=206 height=40 src="home_files/image001.gif" v:shapes="_x0000_s1063"></span><![endif]><!--[if gte vml 1]><v:shape
id="_x0000_s1064" type="#_x0000_t202" alt="" style='position:absolute;left:367.5pt;
top:158.25pt;width:234.75pt;height:27pt;z-index:3' stroked="f">
<v:fill opacity="0"/>
<v:textbox>
<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%" height="100%">
<tr>
<td align="center"><b><i>
<font face="Bradley Hand ITC" size="4" color="#009900">Alpha Psi </font></i>
</b><i><b><font face="Bradley Hand ITC" size="4" color="#009900">Chapter
Est. 1931 </font></b></i></td>
</tr>
</table>
</v:textbox>
</v:shape><![endif]--><![if !vml]><span style='mso-ignore:vglayout;position:
absolute;z-index:3;left:490px;top:211px;width:317px;height:40px'><img
width=317 height=40 src="home_files/image002.gif" v:shapes="_x0000_s1064"></span><![endif]><font color="#007500"><!--[if gte vml 1]><v:shape
id="_x0000_s1065" alt="" style='position:absolute;left:75.75pt;top:110.25pt;
width:656.25pt;height:85.5pt;z-index:2' coordsize="875,114" path="m10,60c383,56,756,53,755,56,754,59,4,69,2,76v-2,7,609,38,741,25c875,88,785,17,793,e"
filled="f" strokecolor="#259325" strokeweight="2.25pt">
<v:path arrowok="t"/>
</v:shape><![endif]--><![if !vml]>
and so on..............
The only thing I can suggest is, if you're going to use FP then stay away from the wizards, transitions and dynamic stuff.
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rubyaim
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RE: Help - Firefox Issues - 4/25/2006 18:17:20
quote:
Something in the "Microsoft dynamic disaster" section has been activated.
I'm pretty sure the text boxes created with drawing toolbar activated the "Microsoft dynamic disaster" .
zoomers92, I posted this about saving anything created with the drawing toolbar as an image:
http://www.frontpagewebmaster.com/m-322150/tm.htm
If you do that, and layout that page with a table, it should display okay in FireFox.
As Caz mentioned, the tutorials at Outfront are very good, here is one on tables:
http://www.outfront.net/tutorials_02/fp_techniques/tables_intro.htm
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