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loversinc -> which url (4/27/2006 6:14:39)

hi i've just put my first site online http://www.onlinegamesplayer.co.uk I want to do well on the search terms 'free,online,games; I have also registered the domain freeonlinegamesplayer.co.uk does any one know which would be better for seo or if I could use both?

thanks a lot
johnny



Reflect -> RE: which url (4/27/2006 14:53:02)

Welcome to OutFront Johnny!!!

Well, I hate to say this on my first reply to you but.....neither. The SEs will see both domains as one long word.

That being said don't get too upset as, IMHO, domain names are a small portion of the seo picture.

I would work on getting links back to the site using those keywords in the text of the link. Also don't use the EXACT same link text for every site that you get a link back from. Rotate through 4 or 5 text statements.

HTH and take care,

Brian



loversinc -> RE: which url (4/28/2006 9:46:09)

thanks very much brian.. would free-online-games.co.uk be better?



Reflect -> RE: which url (5/1/2006 11:30:48)

Yes, but keep in mind not to go toooo far.

Example:

free-online-games.co.uk\game\game1

is ok.

However:

free-online-games.co.uk\free-games\free-game-1

is overkill in my mind.

Also domain names still are a small part but not weighted as heavily as it used to be in the algorithms.

Take care,

Brian



loversinc -> RE: which url (5/5/2006 12:10:13)

well I've changed it to http://www.free-online-games-player.co.uk

is it a problem that I've also got the site on the other url?
I was thinking of using that one for testing.. what will the search engines think to that?

cheers



Starhugger -> RE: which url (5/5/2006 14:39:36)

Here's another viewpoint. I believe the SEs are getting much better at picking keywords out of domain names, even when they're all smushed up into one compound word. I don't know if hyphens are really necessary anymore for SEO. Another thing to consider: "Free" is a keyword often used by spammers and low content or low quality sites. At the very least, it tends to be associated with those kinds of sites. So I would wonder if using "free" in the name might become a liability rather than a benefit? If the SEs start penalizing or frowning on anything with "free" in the name (if they're not already), you would have to start from scratch again building up a web presence with another domain name, even one that was already pointing to your actual site. It's a huge job to go around and try to get all your inbound links changed to the new name, and it can take months for a new domain name to become established in the SEs. My understanding (which could be wrong) is that just because you have owned a domain name that points to your site, doesn't mean the SEs will go "Oh, it's the same site but with a different name now." They may be more likely to treat it as a new site and you're back to square one or two in getting your web presence established again.

Just something to consider.

Starhugger



loversinc -> RE: which url (5/10/2006 16:46:59)

very interesting, would it harm my seo if I have both sites up and running at the same time? at the momment I've left http://www.onlinegamesplayer.co.uk alone and am working on http://www.free-online-games-player.co.uk I could keep both up to date and submit both to directories etc... would it be possible if I tried to make them different.. I'm worried that search engines might think i am cheating if i do this?



Starhugger -> RE: which url (5/10/2006 18:03:09)

quote:

ORIGINAL: loversinc

very interesting, would it harm my seo if I have both sites up and running at the same time? at the momment I've left http://www.onlinegamesplayer.co.uk alone and am working on http://www.free-online-games-player.co.uk I could keep both up to date and submit both to directories etc... would it be possible if I tried to make them different.. I'm worried that search engines might think i am cheating if i do this?

If you have duplicate content on both sites, yes I believe that will definitely hurt you in the SEs. From what I understand, the major SEs are starting to get serious about penalizing duplicate content. So having the same content on two sites, even if their names were not similar, could wind up hurting both sites. I believe the Big-G recently announced big changes to that effect (or someone published an article about this recently).

Starhugger



loversinc -> RE: which url (5/10/2006 18:07:23)

thx... i'll shut down the spare one then.



Starhugger -> RE: which url (5/10/2006 18:13:16)

quote:

ORIGINAL: loversinc

thx... i'll shut down the spare one then.

That's not to say you couldn't keep both domains but have one website and have the other domain point to the active one. Or you could sell it too, I suppose. You might want to see if someone else here has another perspective before you make a final decision. I don't know everything there is to know about this stuff, and I sometimes think I know just enough to be dangerous when I'm wrong. [:D]

Starhugger



loversinc -> RE: which url (5/10/2006 18:22:58)

sorry for stupid question, but how do I point one url to the other?

thx



Starhugger -> RE: which url (5/10/2006 18:30:28)

quote:

ORIGINAL: loversinc

sorry for stupid question, but how do I point one url to the other?

Not a stupid question. [:)] It's been a while since I had to do it, but it involves going into your domain name registration and setting the DNS to your webhost. Whoever you registered your domains with will have some kind of access to your domain account information, including the name, address and contact of the domain owner. Ask your registrar if you're not sure.

Starhugger



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