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mistersongwriter

 

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meta tag help - 4/28/2006 9:37:35   
I just nervously performed my first editing of my Front Page meta tags.
After uploading to my site, the changes have not shown up.
I am afraid I have done something wrong. I restarted my computer, cleared footprints from AOL and cleared cache from Internet Explorer. I performed the same edit on mypage1 and to my index.html. Please advise.

This is what I removed from html page between head and head:

<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 

charset=windows-1252">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="en-us">
<meta name="GENERATOR" content="Microsoft FrontPage 4.0">
<meta name="ProgId" content="FrontPage.Editor.Document">
<title>We are Brian Preston and Bill Benton</title>


This is what I replaced it with:

<head>
<meta name="description" content="Songwriting service">
<meta name="keywords" content="lyricists,poets,demos,recording studio,songs,music">
<meta name="author" content="Bill Benton">
<meta name="language" content="english-USA">
<meta name="revisit-after" content="30 days">
<meta name="owner" content="Bill Benton">
<meta name="copyright" content="Copyright© 2006 Bill Benton, All rights reserved">
<meta name="contact_addr" content="benton@mistersongwriter.com">
<meta name="rating" content="general">
<meta name="robots" content="all">
<meta name="distribution" content="global">
<meta name="classification" content="music">
<meta http-equiv="reply-to" content="benton@mistersongwriter.com">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">
<meta name="GENERATOR" content="Microsoft FrontPage 4.0">
<meta name="ProgId" content="FrontPage.Editor.Document">
<title>mistersongwriter.com</title>
</head>



Thank You
Bill Benton

< Message edited by BobbyDouglas -- 4/28/2006 16:48:52 >
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RE: meta tag help - 4/28/2006 16:48:34   
Have a link? If the changes didn't show up, it is due to your browse chaching the old page. Also, you should place your <title> tag above the meta tags.

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Kitka

 

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RE: meta tag help - 4/28/2006 21:17:22   
It is not a good idea to put your email address in there (or anywhere on a web site) unless you enjoy being overrun with spam. :)

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dasher

 

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RE: meta tag help - 5/1/2006 1:13:59   
Looks like you used a meta tag generator.

IMHO, Most of this is unnecessary and indeed harmful as there is too much for the robots to drill down through before they get to real flesh.

I would prefer this.

<head>
<title>Songwriting service</title> (very competitive title 4,430,000 in Google)
<meta name="description" content="blah blah blah bla and include title and keywords">
<meta name="keywords" content="lyricists,poets,demos,recording studio,songs,music">
(keywords are not beneficial to google. some SEs still take note though disappearing rapidly)
<meta name="language" content="english-USA">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">
</head>

Here is the head of my index for instance

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
<html>

<head>
<title>Ranvet supplements and medications horse dogs greyhounds</title>
<META NAME="description" CONTENT="Vitamin, mineral supplements and medications for high performance thoroughbred, standardbred high value horses dogs">
<META NAME="keywords" CONTENT="horse supplement,horses,veterinary,horse training, performance horse,supplements,breeding racehorses,feed supplements,equine nutrition,Essential Fatty Acids,greyhound,greyhounds">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="en-au">
<meta name="resource-type" content="document">
<script src="http://www.google-analytics.com/urchin.js" type="text/javascript">
</script>
<script type="text/javascript">
_uacct = "UA-149154-1";
urchinTracker();
</script>
<meta name="Microsoft Border" content="tl">
</head>

most of my pages are in the first 10 most search engines for important search terms. For instance, do a google for, treating acidosis in horses, in google, yahoo and MSN (www.ranvet.com.au/acidosis.htm)

Build a sitemap and a google xml sitemap, register with dmoz, get inbound links and wait.

Can you give us a link to your site?

Keeping it simple is my opinion.Hope that is of some help.

Des

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mistersongwriter

 

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RE: meta tag help - 5/3/2006 9:27:58   
Thank you Des. It seems as if meta tags could easily be a college course! After taking your advice here is my new edit to the meta tags:

<html>

<head>
<title>Mistersongwriter Music Composition Services for Poets and Lyricists Web Site</title>
<meta name="description" CONTENT="original music composed for poems and lyrics,low cost demo service,copyright information,songwriting">
<meta name="keywords" CONTENT="music composition,poet services,words set to music,professional poetry reading,original melodies,lyricists, poets, demos,recording studio,songs,music,songwriting,recording studio">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="en-usa">
</head>

I noticed your page begins with:
"<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">"

Is this an important item?

My site is http://www.mistersongwriter.com. I am getting ready to upgrade to a different package on my host this weekend. I have not yet made the changes to my meta tags, I was hoping for a final opinion from you before doing so. One could spend weeks reading about meta tags and even longer studying meta tags on top ranked pages. You are the single person who has given some meaningful advice. I THANK YOU!

Please advise when you have the time. My personal E-Mail is: justsayso04@aol.com.

Meantime, I'll throw another meta generator on the Barbee!

Bill Benton




< Message edited by mistersongwriter -- 5/3/2006 9:35:42 >

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RE: meta tag help - 5/5/2006 17:08:31   
Hi Bill

Check your mail

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RE: meta tag help - 5/5/2006 18:20:24   
quote:

<meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="en-usa">


This is incorrect - it should be only a two letter abbreviation for the country code as specified in ISO 3166:

<meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="en-us">


A much shorter way of conveying that same information is to place it in the html tag and do away with the language meta tag:

<html lang="en-us">


I'm unsure what value there is in indicating a "dialect" of English so I just use:

<html lang="en">


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RE: meta tag help - 5/6/2006 16:30:36   
You are correct re the language Kitka

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mistersongwriter

 

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RE: meta tag help - 5/8/2006 8:35:23   
Thanks Kitka, and Dasher. I just learned that Front Page will not any longer be supported by MS later this year. Not very nice of them. Share Point, apparentely their new (and I'm sure very exspensive) bundled software package due out later this year, is geared to big business. Do you recommend any other in-exspensive similar software. I'm not sure my computer skills are enough to handle language based page building. I think this first venture into site building will also be my last, but none the less, I thank all of you again for the help.:)

Like Gramps used to say, "If it was easy,,,,everybody'd be doin' it"......................Ha

Your voice in the wilderness of the Midwest US, (or should I say en-us)

Bill Benton:)

< Message edited by mistersongwriter -- 5/8/2006 8:46:17 >

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Kitka

 

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RE: meta tag help - 5/8/2006 20:10:36   
quote:

Share Point, apparentely their new (and I'm sure very exspensive) bundled software package due out later this year, is geared to big business.


The Microsoft replacement for FrontPage for people building normal sites is called "Expression Web Designer". The one for big business etc is called "Expression Interactive Designer". There have been a few discussions about the change on this forum:

http://www.frontpagewebmaster.com/m-319906/tm.htm
http://www.frontpagewebmaster.com/m-312900/tm.htm
http://www.frontpagewebmaster.com/m-319109/tm.htm

quote:

Do you recommend any other in-exspensive similar software.


If you decide Expression Web Designer is too complicated (which I doubt), a fair few people here use HTML Kit which is free: http://www.chami.com/html-kit/ and NVU (also free) is gaining a good following: http://nvu.com/

Of course, there is no reason to stop using FrontPage just because Micro$oft withdraws support. :)

< Message edited by Kitka -- 5/8/2006 20:18:53 >


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mistersongwriter

 

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RE: meta tag help - 5/10/2006 4:47:56   
Kitka, thanks for the links. I finally read them all. I have been so busy trying to resolve server issues that I haven't the time to read here as much as I would like. Since all of you have been so helpful....Here is another question.
I recently purchased software by easybe.com called 1-2-3-Music Store. It needs to be uploaded in ftp. The two times I have turned off FP exstensions it has taken as act of congress to get my site back up and running. My host has had to recalculate hyperlinks and send script to fix it each time.This new software is in linux, which I barely know anything about, but this software is exactly what I want to use. Any suggestions on how to proceed. 1and1 is my host. I chose them for the extra room for many songs. I hesitate since it only takes about 20 minutes to upload my entire site at present but once I add a big bunch of new sound files, it will shift to taking hours to upload each time. Only one out of 6 of their techs seem to know how to do anything. I am not against switching hosts but I do like the toll free 24/7 phone tech. Any advice will be appreciated. You are a great group. I spend more and more time here. You and Des have both been a big help, taking your time for me.
Thank you

Bill

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