I put it back to what worked before which is basically what Roger uses. Like I say though you need to be careful if you use that as to where your padding goes. I use another inner box with a margin to push it all into place but other things will work, depends on the rest of your page.
Okay, well I'm glad we found a good way to do this stuff. Thanks Roger! I haven't tried it on any of my own pages yet. I just saw that generator and thought it might be useful.