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megabuff -> Scamed with list purchase (8/24/2006 6:36:02)

Want to buy leads? Avoid LIST BUILDER Pro like the plague

(Listbuilderpro.com; Listmedia; Worldwidelists Community)

You know the leads that you can buy to get people to "signup"
for your news letter?

The idea is you then send out a newsletter with good information
(in my case work from home) and then you can build a
relationship and send out an "offer" a few times a month. Also
you promote your business opportunity to them!


I purchased 10,000 double optin leads/month from List Builder
Pro for $US649.75 for a "one month" deal.

The second month came around and I receive an account from
2checkout.com billing me for another month ($US650)

I contacted them to explain that I signed up for a 1 off
deal.

They later contacted me to say the charge was cancelled and I
thought nothing of it.

Big mistake. I know this will sound dumb but it turns out I
didn’t scan my Credit Card Statement for that month.

End of financial year and I was going through all my statements
and I then discovered that I had been charged for the second
lot of leads.

2checkout.com said sorry but it was between me and List Builder.
Erik James from list builder is not communicating with me.

It took about 4 months for the list to reach 10,000 and when it
continued to grow (I am thinking I only bought 10k) I figured
they probably give 10% extra to makeup for duds.

When I grew beyond that I emailed list builder 3 times informing
them that I had reached, what I thought was my quota. They
never replied.

So the list ended up growing to > 15,000 but never reached to
20,000 they have illegally charged me for.

As far as the list goes, they are the biggest duds of all
time.

At best I have not made one cent out of it. The people are
supposed to be signing up for news letters about starting home
business on line and yet not one person has taken up any offers.

I have sent numerous opportunities that were absolutely free
without getting one taker (out of 15,000 unbelievable)! I
fail to see how this could happen if they were genuine people
looking to start a business.

At worse I have had 100s of rude, abusive and sometimes
threatening emails from people tell me to stop emailing
them.

Remember this is double optin, where someone clicks a link to
get the newsletter and then they receive an email asking them to
verify their intentions to receive the emails.

A just want to share this with you in the hope it will save someone
else from being cheated.



coreybryant -> RE: Scamed with list purchase (8/24/2006 7:27:28)

Sorry to hear about all the troubles. Has it been more than 6 months? Did you contact your issuing bank to see if you could retreive the money. Since 2CO is like a third party processor you stil have another avenue to get your money back if it has not been two long. Some issuing banks only give your 2-3 monthm while others might even give you 6-10 months.



megabuff -> RE: Scamed with list purchase (8/24/2006 8:14:10)

thanks Cory

Unfortunatly it is over 6 months, my Credit card provider cant help after 3mths.

I was very disapointed with the veiw if 2CO.

they said sorry but then said I had to deal with eric.

So no joy there at all. Not at all impressed.
I hold them partially to blaim because they sent me a message saying the charge was cancelled when in fact it wasnt.

Kev



jaybee -> RE: Scamed with list purchase (8/24/2006 8:26:08)

These people pick up their leads from extremely dubious opt-ins and as for double opt-in, make them prove it.

If you're going to sign up with one of these lists get them to show you where they're getting the leads from and if they can't, don't touch them with a barge pole.



jaybee -> RE: Scamed with list purchase (8/24/2006 8:34:45)

Is this him too?

http://www.000url.com/

Yes, it is, the domain is registerd to the same company.

Maybe you should try contacting him through there, you might have better luck.

Heck, see if he has any other domain kicking around (bet there are loads) contact him through all of them. [:D]



davids -> RE: Scamed with list purchase (9/7/2006 15:55:51)

I guess this will sound very rude. I find it hard to feel sorry for a spammer that got scammed. Hope I 'm not on those lists, but I probably am [>:]



BobbyDouglas -> RE: Scamed with list purchase (9/8/2006 14:22:23)

quote:

At best I have not made one cent out of it. The people are
supposed to be signing up for news letters about starting home
business on line and yet not one person has taken up any offers.

- You're doing something wrong then. My friend just started his list, he sends out a couple e-mails per week, and he is making tons of money. In his 3rd month of being active, he pulled in nearly $3000. He says the average is $1-$1.5 in revenue per subscriber per month. He doesn't even do much work with it. He has an associate (actually the person who got him into the list building stuff), who pulled in $10,000 in a single month with 8,000 subscribers.

Now to get more on topic about the bad service with your list software.... Issue a chargeback. 3rd party merchants hate dealing with chargebacks, and if you call and tell them you are going to issue a chargeback, they will give you a refund. If they don't, call your credit card company and get a chargeback issued. 2checkout loses money, and then the seller of the software loses money.



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