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mistareno
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Any and all Suggestions appreciated - 8/30/2006 12:44:55
G'day,
I do a website website for my car club and have just given it a freshen up.
I'm only a novice and have only learned through trial and error (more error) so any and all suggestions on how it can be improved would be greatly appreciated.
www.renaultnet.org
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RE: Any and all Suggestions appreciated - 8/30/2006 13:10:34
Veeery nice. Great work with the Renault logo, the website feels very much Renaultish and automotive.
Put more contrast to the grey area on the right, so it stands out better as an introduction. Something like #666666 or darker with white text. Use the same look on other pages, too. I don't know how it would go with the rest of the design though, feel free to experiment.
By the way, I can see you know a thing or two about graphic design. The presentation is very clear and usable.
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RE: Any and all Suggestions appreciated - 8/30/2006 13:50:42
The word "template" is mentioned a lot in the markup.... could just be the way the OP has structured the site though.
(There's nothing wrong with using a templates for your site - if it is a template then it's better to mention it in your post so that we know what we're critiquing. )
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RE: Any and all Suggestions appreciated - 8/30/2006 14:00:11
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Not unless you happen to own a Renault
I think you're missing the point. What I'm asking is were your design choices inspired by another site. When I clicked on the link I immediately recognized the layout and the colors, not the content. The way it's laid out is more than familiar to me for some reason.
And I think you were responding when I was editing my post. My last question was 'is this a template?'
I'm not sure if I should be offended but it is defenitely my own design and a direct evolution of the last design. As for inspiration, every site I visit, has aspects I like and dislike.
I know I'm only a newby here, but maybe if you think my site is a copy or rip off then you should prove it before tarring me with a brush.
BTW it's not a template.
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RE: Any and all Suggestions appreciated - 8/30/2006 14:06:25
I'd be flattered if I were you mistareno - you said you were "only a novice" but your site has a very professional look to it. So much so that there was the instant suspicion that it was a template!
Only thing I'd say is that some of the text is very small - you're using "pts" to size the text which is a bit of a no-no as it can't be resized properly. Ideally stick to percentages (maybe around 74%?) or ems. I personally have more luck with % than ems.
All we have to do is convert you to using CSS and we'll be out of a job... hang on a minute....
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RE: Any and all Suggestions appreciated - 8/30/2006 14:07:08
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ORIGINAL: Tailslide
The word "template" is mentioned a lot in the markup.... could just be the way the OP has structured the site though.
(There's nothing wrong with using a templates for your site - if it is a template then it's better to mention it in your post so that we know what we're critiquing. )
Oh brother...
You will find the term 06TEMPLATEFILES and 06TEMPLATEIMAGES about a squillion times in the source as that is where (strangely enough) the Template Images (mainly the tags and vertical page labels are located) and the top menu and slideshow (now flash) are located in the 06TEMPLATEFILES sub directory.
I had to put them in different sub directories when I updated the site as some images and files in the web were of the same name and I wanted to try and keep it all organised a bit better than last time
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RE: Any and all Suggestions appreciated - 8/30/2006 14:17:10
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^ see my last post!
Sorry, just read your earlier post...
As for CSS, I really should learn how to utilise it as I know it saves alot of work. Especially if you stuff something up.
Can you recommend any self teach books on CSS?
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RE: Any and all Suggestions appreciated - 8/31/2006 0:11:49
As a side issue, I was thinking about changing the content labels from individual gifs (as they are at the moment) to a uniform background gif with html text.
This is how the site looks now seperate tags- Renaultnet
This is how it would look with the html text instead - Renaultnet with HTML tags
or with lowercase html text instead - Renaultnet with lower case HTML tags
FWIW I would probably change the first and last line of Flash Text to Lower Case to maintain the style if I went with lower case but would leave the Navigation text in upper case.
Do you think the trade off in download speed is worth it?
It would probably save a little work in the future but does it look much worse/better?
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RE: Any and all Suggestions appreciated - 8/31/2006 2:56:30
Personally I'm all in favour of using text rather than text-in-images - unless you're using image replacement techniques. The reason is for accessibility rather than download speed though! You could use normal upper/lower case text and then transform it to all lower using CSS - that way it all makes sense without the styling too.
So if you had all the headings (and they should be actual headings rather than just text made to look bigger/bolder)
<h2>What's New</h2>
then in your CSS
h2 {text-transform:lowercase;font-size:80%; font-weight:bold;}
I'm using h2 for these headings as I'm assuming the big heading h1 will be used for the main page heading.
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RE: Any and all Suggestions appreciated - 8/31/2006 3:36:29
Thanks for that. At 88% the font in Upper Case looks almost exactly the same as the Flash text so I might stick with that.
What's the go with having a text size as a %?
The text is 88% of what?
Is it compatible with all browsers?
What are the advantages (apart from the wider range of sizes).
Do they render smoother?
FWIW, I'll defenitely take your suggestion re CSS on board but I'm not quite prepared to take the jump to CSS yet.
I might download First Expression and get confident using that before launching into another rebuild with CSS...
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RE: Any and all Suggestions appreciated - 11/3/2006 0:57:03
I'd have to say that it's really professional. Really love it. I'm a newbie who knows nothing really. I'm reading these forums to find out things I may be doing wrong and for ideas. But top points from me.
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