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I am a beginner- be gentle - 9/18/2006 13:45:18   
Hello please review my website and give me any suggestions that you can. I would like to learn as much as possible- this is my first website. I did it with frontage 2000 but will be getting 2003 in the next few weeks. :)

Sweetie Pea Design
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RE: I am a beginner- be gentle - 9/18/2006 14:26:12   
Nice beginning. However, I personally have 2 things I didn't like.

1. Page was somewhat slow to display anything. Could be temporary but then again maybe you should optimize any pics on that page and/or reorganize the content so something displays while the rest starts filling in.

2. Did not like the changing widths of the navigation at the top on mouseover. Changing the color is fine but you changed the weight as well so the menu has epileptic fits when the mouse goes over them. That I don't care much at all for. IMO better to have no mouseovers than bad ones.

Hope that was gentle enough. Other than that, I like the clean, non-cluttered layout a lot.

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RE: I am a beginner- be gentle - 9/18/2006 16:57:29   
I agree with rdouglass.

The problem with the delay in loading could be due to a table layout. If everything is nested in one single table, the browser doesn't display it until everything in that table is loaded. Try DIV's instead. :)


**EDIT**
I just looked at your source code and noticed that there is no closing HTML tag, no closing BODY tag and others I'm sure. To check your HTML submit your URL to http://validator.w3.org. It finds 19 errors in your source code for HTML 4.01 Transitional and 41 Errors for XHTML 1.0 Transitional.

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hegotup

 

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RE: I am a beginner- be gentle - 9/18/2006 17:52:13   
thanks a bunch-- how do you use DIV's? How to un nest my table? Thank you guys :)

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rdouglass

 

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RE: I am a beginner- be gentle - 9/19/2006 10:13:15   
quote:

how do you use DIV's? How to un nest my table?


DIV's are an art form unto themselves and are way too much to explain here.

Separating a large table is relatively easy. Instead of 1 big table, make multiple tables and stack them. For instance:

<table>
<tr><td>Row 1</td></tr>
<tr><td>Row 2</td></tr>
<tr><td>Row 3</td></tr>
</table>

becomes:

<table>
<tr><td>Row 1</td></tr>
</table>
<table>
<tr><td>Row 2</td></tr>
</table>
<table>
<tr><td>Row 3</td></tr>
</table>

What happens is the browser needs to retrieve all the info about a table before it draws it. So if you have all your content in 1 table, the whole page needs to be delivered before anything will render in the browser window. By making stacked tables, you deliver the first table, render it, deliver the second table, render it, etc... Not quite that litterally but you get the idea.

This allows *something* to be displayed while the rest of the page 'fills in'. This of course is a simplified version but hopefully you get the idea.

If you have further questions about DIV's or stacked tables, a diffrerent post in a different topic area would be appropriate.

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hegotup

 

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RE: I am a beginner- be gentle - 9/19/2006 17:37:55   
thank you---- I think that I did that but my index page is still loading slow. I inserted a new table within the main table and put my banner ad in the new table. I was hoping that the main table would load and the viewer would have the option of letting the applet load or not.
If you have any suggestions, I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks

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jaybee

 

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RE: I am a beginner- be gentle - 9/19/2006 17:45:09   
It's only 4 rotating pictures. why not make an animated gif with them that way you don't have to worry about java loading and people who have java blocked.

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hegotup

 

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RE: I am a beginner- be gentle - 9/20/2006 11:53:32   
That is an excellent idea. I am going to work on that now. I greatly appreciate your help. :)

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anderskorte

 

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RE: I am a beginner- be gentle - 9/23/2006 12:26:10   
The page title doesn't work. It reads “sweefie Pea desiqn” and the “P” is a little too much for the rest of the text.

I think you should also do something for the gray borders around the pages.

There are two different styles that conflict. The blocks & borders style with the technical “sweefie” font, and a cream-colored script style with the beautiful flower images around the website. It looks stylish, but the overall feel of the design is confusing.

But in overall, it's a nice design to build upon.

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Donkey

 

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RE: I am a beginner- be gentle - 9/23/2006 19:56:18   
The fontmeister has made a good point if not somewhat understated. To me that title reads "sweetie Bea Design" that is never a "P". It looks awful, if you are offering graphic design services you should at least make your site readable.

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phoon

 

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RE: I am a beginner- be gentle - 4/11/2008 12:51:47   
Hello,

I find the colors on your web page to be very complimentary. I have problems with a navigation bar it is hard to find and it should be more distinct. Most sidebars should be larger and be placed on the left or right hand soft. If you must have your navigation bar, across thetop it should be larger and can have more presence. Moving pictures it is not a good idea as it distracts you from the title and what you were trying to portray.
Just by entering from the front page, I cannot tell what product you are trying to sell.
This critique is based on what have learned within my E-commerce.

Hope this helps,
Phoon

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RE: I am a beginner- be gentle - 4/11/2008 13:07:20   
This is a very old post - not much point in replying to it now...

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