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url redirecting (?) after publishing - 10/13/2006 13:47:31
ok - my client is trying to publish this page http://www.encinosmiledr.com/dave.htm in his existing web site but when either of us try to view it it just reverts to http://www.encinosmiledr.com/
he has been publishing his site (using FP) up to this point with no problems: anyone got any ideas or things we can try??
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RE: url redirecting (?) after publishing - 10/13/2006 15:03:50
where is the htaccess usually, *if* there is one?
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RE: url redirecting (?) after publishing - 10/13/2006 16:09:20
Since dave.htm redirects slow, it isn't .htaccess. Usually it will be a meta refresh, or javascript that is the issue. With .htaccess you shouldn't see any waiting time at all, the page will not load when you use .htaccess, it will always load the new page it is redirecting to.
Open dave.htm and remove this code:
<p><!--webbot bot="REDIRECT" WIP="yes" startspan Preview="[J-BOT This Page Jumps to http://www.encinosmiledr.com in 0 seconds]" tag="p" i-seconds="0" s-jumpurl="http://www.encinosmiledr.com" clientside -->
<script language=javascript> <!--
// Webs Unlimited's J-BOTS FrontPage 2002 JavaScript Generator version 4.0
// Copyright Webs Unlimited 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001 All rights reserved - http://WebsUnlimited.com
window.setTimeout("location='http://www.encinosmiledr.com'",0);
//-->
</script><!--webbot bot="REDIRECT" endspan i-CheckSum="51244" --></p>
However, if it was .htaccess....
It would be in the same folder that dave.htm resides in.
For example: /home/username/public_html/.htaccess
You will need to browse the file via a File Manager or FTP. Pretty sure FP Publish hides this file.
When you download it, rename it to a ht.txt then open it up.
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RE: url redirecting (?) after publishing - 10/13/2006 16:22:08
well that's weird because dave.htm should be the test page that i sent the client (that i made in DW) so it wouldn't have had that in, but i will try and get it removed
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RE: url redirecting (?) after publishing - 10/13/2006 20:00:04
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SLOW????! It was so fast here I couldn't see, let alone catch dave.htm to get at the code.
- Javascript/meta refresh redirects are always slower than server side redirects. These kind of redirects require the entire browser to fully load the page, and then execute the javascript for the refresh. It is all done on the client side. However, with a server side redirect, the page isn't actually loaded.
Go to http://www.mrbobswebdesign.com and then go to http://mrbobswebdesign.com (server side redirect)
Then compare that to the speed of http://www.encinosmiledr.com/dave.htm
Web's Unlimited is some FP program I think.
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RE: url redirecting (?) after publishing - 10/14/2006 3:14:49
bobby - client says he looked really carefully and he doesn't see that code in html view in fp2000
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RE: url redirecting (?) after publishing - 10/14/2006 3:25:50
It might not be on the client side of things, but it is 100% for sure on the server side. I would have the client delete the entire file from the server (log in via FTP and just delete it) then see what happens when the client tries to publish it again. If you know the user/pass for FTP, it might be easier if you just delete it yourself and then tell the client to try and publish it again.
You can see the code on the client side if you load the page, and then hit the Esc key so the page stops loading. Since it is using a client side script to redirect (as opposed to server side that is done instantly), the code will take awhile to fully execute and transfer the new page. You should be able to catch it before it gets executed. So hit Esc, then view the page source. Doing so will show the actual code of the page. I also think you can visit the dave.htm page, then have it execute the redirect, and then click the back button and the page should load.
Just for reference... this is the full HTML output of that page:
<html>
<head>
</head>
<body>
<p><!--webbot bot="REDIRECT" WIP="yes" startspan Preview="[J-BOT This Page Jumps to http://www.encinosmiledr.com in 0 seconds]" tag="p" i-seconds="0" s-jumpurl="http://www.encinosmiledr.com" clientside -->
<script language=javascript> <!--
// Webs Unlimited's J-BOTS FrontPage 2002 JavaScript Generator version 4.0
// Copyright Webs Unlimited 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001 All rights reserved - http://WebsUnlimited.com
window.setTimeout("location='http://www.encinosmiledr.com'",0);
//-->
</script><!--webbot bot="REDIRECT" endspan i-CheckSum="51244" --></p>
</body>
</html>
I like the maintenance message for when the server is down for maintenance, that's pretty cool :)
quote:
Oops . . .
Unfortunately you have visited during a time of normal server maintenance. This site should be available again in 30 minutes. We are sorry for any inconvenience. Please check back soon.
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RE: url redirecting (?) after publishing - 10/14/2006 11:17:54
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This is what I was trying to tell you, it loads so fast here I don't have time to hit the Esc key that's why I thought it might be htaccess.
- Dunno what to say, there has to be a delay since it is client side. I have a screaming fast connection/computer, and I still see the delay.
Maybe you visited the page earlier, didn't notice the dave page being loaded at all, and then had it somehow cached? If you have a problem with your computer, the page might be loading and not fully display. Then when it does display, it has already moved onto the new page?
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RE: url redirecting (?) after publishing - 10/14/2006 11:36:24
Hmm, I had a friend give it a try and he could see it in both FF and IE.
Open IE, then click on this link: http://www.frontpagewebmaster.com/redirect_url.asp?URL=http://www.encinosmiledr.com/dave.htm
Look in the address bar and see if dave.htm ever displays in the address bar. You should also hear two clicks for when dave.htm loads, and the page it is redirecting to loads.
Oh, can you click the back button in your browser to go back to dave.htm? Since the server actually sends the dave.htm file to the client, instead of sending the page it is redirecting to, it should show up as a page when you click back.
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RE: url redirecting (?) after publishing - 10/14/2006 15:28:18
Just had enother person test it too. He said he couldn't even tell that it redirected. Then I asked if he save dave.htm appear at all, and he said yes it did appear, but only for a split second. He said it was too fast to hit Esc. However, he could still click the back button to view dave.htm.
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RE: url redirecting (?) after publishing - 10/14/2006 15:39:08
strange, jb, the back button worked for me and when i hit escape i can view source and see the redirect code, though i'm at a loss as to how it gets in there ;)
anyway asked for the client to either delete the file on the server and republish and see what happens or to (preferably) send me the login details so i can try. this 10 hour difference in between me and california is a pain though!! :)
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RE: url redirecting (?) after publishing - 10/14/2006 17:51:22
Does this link ever appear in the address bar after you hit go? http//www.frontpagewebmaster.com/redirect_url.asp?URL=http://www.encinosmiledr.com/dave.htm
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RE: url redirecting (?) after publishing - 10/14/2006 21:53:53
On 28k dial up you can see dave.htm for a second.
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RE: url redirecting (?) after publishing - 11/6/2006 14:10:28
ok my client is having a little trouble getting to grips with the redirect issue (as are the hosting too ;) so i've asked for the fp login details so i can poke around in the site. at the moment we have this little treasure
<meta http-equiv="refresh"
content="0.1;url=http://pp.kpnet.fi/prescott/dentist/#main">
at this address http://www.encinosmiledr.com/Dave.htm when what we want to happen is this
type in http://www.encinosmiledr.com/Dave.htm and remain at http://www.encinosmiledr.com/Dave.htm
in fp how do i delete the current dave.htm and replace it with the proper page? will the reirect reappear??
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