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Critique this site for me please. - 10/17/2006 13:07:23
I don't consider myself to be a novice, but I know there's a lot more for me to learn. Someone mentioned that I had a cute site but didn't know much about code. Is this because I used FP and the code is cluttered. Do you know a tutorial where I can read about using good code. I did use a stylesheet and as many divs as possible. Can you all help me with this? www.baby-angels.org Oh and this may not be the area, but i'm looking for some graphics designers to help create my own angels.
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RE: Critique this site for me please. - 10/20/2006 22:40:30
Thanks for the advice. I put the site up quickly. Creating sites takes a lot of time and i'm sort of impatient and always in a hurry. I will get rid of the tables as I am using CSS more and more each day. And, "kind of cutesy", is a great complement for me! Its the tone i'd like to set for the site. I don't want to add sad music and an interface that screams grief up for already grieving families! I will lighten the dark pink too. I'll be back here soon to get feedback on the newer site. Thanks! Oh, and when you lose a baby or child at any age, the pain cuts deep and never goes away. Its been only five years for me and it seems like five days. I've heard that some people cry a lifetime.
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RE: Critique this site for me please. - 10/21/2006 6:21:20
“Contact Baby Angels” is an email link, but you haven't warned about it. Email links are a little useless anyway, because practically no one will use them. They'll copy and paste the email address instead to their email app or webmail. It's nice, but you need to make it better structured. It looks a little misaligned and just thrown together. If it was a little better thought out, the overall feel of the site would be more sophisticated and convincing.
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RE: Critique this site for me please. - 10/21/2006 11:04:33
"Email links are a little useless anyway, because practically no one will use them. They'll copy and paste the email address instead to their email app or webmail." i don't :)
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RE: Critique this site for me please. - 10/21/2006 20:36:50
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because practically no one will use them what do you base that statement on?
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RE: Critique this site for me please. - 10/22/2006 5:12:24
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ORIGINAL: d a v e i don't :) I do. Unwarned email links are horrible, I associate them with unwarned PDF links. quote:
ORIGINAL: dpf what do you base that statement on? I have never used them because of the spam issue and because no client has ever requested so, but... Do you really use them? Well, of course if you're using an email app which you always have at hand. Personally, I totally hate them. The worst thing is that my Outlook Express pops up (I use webmail, so I don't have an email app, Outlook Express comes with IE) and I have to click through 5 different states because it wants me to set up an email account. The computer also hangs for 3-5 seconds. The people to I've talked to don't like email links and don't use them (unless they're at work with Outlook open all the time). So that's the notion I've got. People don't use them. If you're on the web, you're on the web. Email is separate. If there's a link named ”Contact Us”, it should stand for contact information with people's names, the company's postal address and some email addresses. Email links are acceptable when you have the email address as the link name. But even then, I copy and paste the address because I want to use the email account and app I want, not what happens to be the default at the time.
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RE: Critique this site for me please. - 10/22/2006 10:33:23
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Do you really use them ..all the time..as do people i talk to
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RE: Critique this site for me please. - 10/22/2006 12:46:02
Me too! Why do 4 things (copy, open client, click "new message", paste address) when you can do one thing. On client sites I usually have a form and an email link (usually the email address but not always).
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RE: Critique this site for me please. - 10/22/2006 13:19:39
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Well, of course if you're using an email app which you always have at hand. ...that isnt a requirement. mail link opens whatever email you have as default in browser..even yahoo or hotmail
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RE: Critique this site for me please. - 10/22/2006 13:21:09
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Contact Baby Angels” is an email link, but you haven't warned about it well maybe its just me but i see that as a "warning" contact.....I dont expect it to dial the phone
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RE: Critique this site for me please. - 10/22/2006 13:45:53
"I dont expect it to dial the phone " lol!
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RE: Critique this site for me please. - 10/22/2006 14:39:47
i guess they could change the 'contact' to 'email' ?! though when i think of contact on web pages i usually think of email, or possibly phone (but then i might expect the word phone/tel) as the first mode of contact ;)
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RE: Critique this site for me please. - 10/22/2006 15:18:35
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ORIGINAL: dpf I dont expect it to dial the phone A contact link is supposed to go to a contact info page, not launch an interface feature. You guys are great, you just convinced me of mailto:// links. And I tell you, I'm not a person who's easy to convince. Always learning something new every day. Kudos to Outfront. Kudos!
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RE: Critique this site for me please. - 10/22/2006 15:50:13
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supposed to go to a contact ..says who?
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RE: Critique this site for me please. - 10/22/2006 16:11:31
and of course you can always use the title attribute on the anchor to explain the nature of the link...
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RE: Critique this site for me please. - 10/24/2006 0:30:26
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ORIGINAL: dpf quote:
Well, of course if you're using an email app which you always have at hand. ...that isnt a requirement. mail link opens whatever email you have as default in browser..even yahoo or hotmail and I have a firefox extension that opens up gmail for me when I click a mailto link. It's called Gmail manager, and you can set it to handle multiple gmail accounts. it's the best thing since sliced bread!
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RE: Critique this site for me please. - 10/31/2006 1:23:38
I would like to thank everyone for their honest opinions. The comments are not too bad. I'm really hard on myself and thought i'd get a LOT worse, although I know it needs to be improved. I did "throw" the design together fast. I spent a lot of time on the header because I didn't know exactly what look I was looking for. I just know I want people to feel a great sense of comfort. I'm in the process of a redesign (using Dreamweaver) and I have to move my files to a new server in order to get my guestbook to work! I'm going to create it with PHP and MySQL (something new because i'm used to the old "ASP and Access" setup). I've found my skills to be antiquated in today's Web industry. And, great point about the email link, I didn't think about the dreaded Outlook popping up. I HATE IT WHEN THAT HAPPENS! I would rather much set up a form. I will be in touch soon.
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