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JohnLearner
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Bullet points in Firefox - 11/27/2006 6:07:29
Hi all, I have just noticed that my bullet points in the page at www.handscombes.co.uk/brochure_proven_techniques_leaflet.htm are showing up as question marks in Firefox 1.5.0.7. Maybe it's just a misconfiguration in my Firefox (View/Character Encoding) since they're OK in IE7 & Opera 9.02 and even in Netscape 8.1... Are they OK in your browser? If not, any ideas? (I use FP 2003). Thanks, John.
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JohnLearner
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RE: Bullet points in Firefox - 11/27/2006 6:26:00
Hi, Samuel, I've just discovered (here: http://www.yourhtmlsource.com/text/lists.html) that you can (should?) create them with HTML. I guess they're bound to work then, aren't they? However, I did this site a couple of years ago and cannot for the life of me remember how I got the bullets in maive & the text in black! Anyway I did, and I don't want to mess about with it. So if it's OK in your Firefox, it should be OK in everyone's ... I guess. That's cool. Why break it if it's not fixed?!?!? ;) Thanks, John.
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JohnLearner
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RE: Bullet points in Firefox - 11/27/2006 6:48:12
Thanks, jaybee, We can always rely on your input. :o) John.
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Tailslide
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RE: Bullet points in Firefox - 11/27/2006 6:57:15
The (not sure what they're actually called) square thingys that you've used can sometimes go awry because they're special characters like the copyright sign for instance and if there's any confusion about what charset you're using (if you don't declare it for instance) then there may be issues with either the browser misinterpreting it or possibly the server not serving it correctly (using the wrong charset). So generally it would be better and more semantic to use a proper HTML list to avoid possible issues (you can always use CSS to make the bullets fancier).
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JohnLearner
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RE: Bullet points in Firefox - 11/27/2006 7:11:26
Hi, Tailslide, Actually, they should be round - that's how I see them in all my non-Firefox browsers and in FP. I get your points entirely, which is what I meant when I said perhaps we "should?" use HTML to create them, in order to avoid the browsers misinterpreting them. Thanks for your help, John. Just editing this information in:- I've changed my View => charset from Western ISO-8559-15 to ISO-8559-1 in Firefox, and it's OK now. All's well that ends well... Note: Western ISO-8559-15 will not show the Euro symbol (For info.).
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JohnLearner
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RE: Bullet points in Firefox - 11/27/2006 7:44:17
Just testing yer, Donkey! We all need to be sure of who we are in this topsy-turvy world. ;o)))
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JohnLearner
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RE: Bullet points in Firefox - 2/25/2007 18:50:17
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ORIGINAL: JohnLearner I have just noticed that my bullet points in the page at www.handscombes.co.uk/brochure_proven_techniques_leaflet.htm are showing up as question marks in Firefox 1.5.0.7. Maybe it's just a misconfiguration in my Firefox (View/Character Encoding) since they're OK in IE7 & Opera 9.02 and even in Netscape 8.1... This has come up again. What seems to solve it is adding the meta tag: <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> Is this a correct assumption, and should I insert it into all pages on the site? Note: Only 3 pages, which have bullet points in them, are directly affected by this problem. Back on Monday... Thanks, John.
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Tailslide
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RE: Bullet points in Firefox - 2/26/2007 2:35:12
I would certainly always include either ISO-8859-1 or UTF-8 (whichever is more appropriate) on every page.
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Tailslide
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RE: Bullet points in Firefox - 2/26/2007 9:40:48
Oh yes completely - fiddle, fiddle, fiddle, (break) (swear), fiddle, fiddle, (ta-da!), fiddle fiddle etc etc That particular character set is a m$ one so you run the usual possible risks of misinterpretations etc. Here's a useful article on the topic - it's not the most interesting of subjects I warn you now!
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JohnLearner
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RE: Bullet points in Firefox - 2/26/2007 10:12:50
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fiddle, fiddle, fiddle, (break) (swear), fiddle, fiddle, (ta-da!), fiddle fiddle etc etc ??? Yes it is fiddly, Tailslide, but you have to get these things right in the end. Never mind, I'll try to read the article anyway even if I land up looking for the pants it's bored off me! I need to learn these things... Thanks for your help on this. (I've just got a huge book on CSS, which I've been told will address this kind of problem more decisively & permanently). John. Thanks - SitePoint looks really cool, and the article is just what I'm looking for. Yesss!!! I'll think I'll register with SitePoint...
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JohnLearner
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RE: Bullet points in Firefox - 2/26/2007 10:36:20
Oh, sorry. Serious?
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Tailslide
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RE: Bullet points in Firefox - 2/26/2007 10:58:18
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ORIGINAL: jaybeeThere are some really nice people on there but others........ ... are total To**ers. If you imagine this place is sort of like Junior school - warm and friendly (generally). SP is a bit like the playground on your first day in Senior School.
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